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Two reasons why only poor folks or fools send their children to public schools
Public Enquiry Project ^ | 10/6/04 | Arrogant Adrian

Posted on 10/06/2004 12:06:11 PM PDT by AdrianSpidle

I am a collector of Ancient coins and American coins. The following appeared in a post on a chat list today -

"... My wife works for a public elementary school, and a couple of years ago they were doing someting about Presidents on coins. Most of the teachers at her school thought that was Washington on the nickel! Tom"

This reminded me of a mother in my daughter's Montessori school who was a Public School "science teacher" in the Boston public school system. She complained that "I have to teach the solar system tomorrow and I don't know anything about it. I'll be up all night studying for it."

I made the mistake of sending my son to Massachusetts Public Schools and he turned into a knee jerk Democrat. That will never happen with my daughter.

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TOPICS: Education; Politics
KEYWORDS: education

1 posted on 10/06/2004 12:06:14 PM PDT by AdrianSpidle
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To: AdrianSpidle

Reminds me of Gore when he was looking at the busts of Jeffereson, Washington and others and asking the host who those guys were.


2 posted on 10/06/2004 12:13:09 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: AdrianSpidle
A child's education is what you, as a parent, make it.

My kids all go to public schools, where my wife volunteers, and they are doing just fine.

We're not poor by any means.
3 posted on 10/06/2004 12:13:26 PM PDT by baltodog ("Anaerobic Putrification" is my favorite funeral term...)
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To: AdrianSpidle
Dick Cheney said last night that he's a product of public schooling.

Come to think of it, so am I. I am neither foolish nor left-wing.

I'm starting to resent your remarks.
4 posted on 10/06/2004 12:14:09 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: AdrianSpidle

bump


5 posted on 10/06/2004 12:16:42 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: Xenalyte

I'm also a product of public schools but that was a long time ago.

The Teachers Unions have destroyed our schools.


6 posted on 10/06/2004 12:19:50 PM PDT by AdrianSpidle (Public Enquiry Project)
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To: AdrianSpidle

Don't know about you, but I'm only 35.


7 posted on 10/06/2004 12:21:35 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: AdrianSpidle
Hay! Eye wendt two publik skool to! I recent that remake aboat publik skoolz. ;)

Seriously, I attended military schools until High School, then went public. Of course that was 30 years ago. My stepson went to public school and try as my wife & I might there just weren't enough hours in the day to deprogram him.
Luckily he woke up on his own before it was too late. I'd say 4 out of 5 of his friends are unemployable idiots that can't make change with a calculator!

8 posted on 10/06/2004 12:25:06 PM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Every night I smile when thinking that the hippie wacko lefties are one day closer to extinction.)
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To: AdrianSpidle
I also went to public school and seemingly turned out OK. It's all what the parents make of it, a good district is also a help.

Home school bunch would be all over this thread if it were in News/Activisim

9 posted on 10/06/2004 2:38:01 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: AdrianSpidle


Frankly this homeschooling elite club crap is getting old.


10 posted on 10/06/2004 7:18:37 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: SouthernFreebird

I suggest that you read the following article and tell me why they can't be elated that as a result of enormously hard work they do not have to confine their children to such an experience.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1237240/posts

I have been a public school teacher and have advanced degrees in the field. I sent my children to private schools and am blessed that their children are being home schooled because I do not think that the liberal thinking private schools are worth the price.

It takes a great deal of fortitude, love and commitment to home school well but not everyone can or should do it because not everyone has the qualifications necessary or the inclination or even good health to do it.

There isn't much credit given to those who do it; those who use their own funds from often meager income to school their children and pay the taxes to school everyone else's.

There is a great deal of derision from education officials and social services people who love to hunt down and "get at" these families (otherwise there wouldn't be a Home School Legal Defense organization). They reallly do take the rough road.

I cannot imagine why their exultation disturbs people. I think that you may be making a mistaken diagnosis. There are elitists in every aspect of life including public and private schools but I have rarely contacted a home schooled family that envied rather than cheered on another such family.

I don’t see them trying to take your public schools away from you so why on earth should it affect you either way? Ignore it, don’t take it personally and forget it just as you do other opinions or language on this forum that do not jibe with your experience or meet your expectation. Your health and well being will benefit from that course of action and that is the kind of "best" that I would wish for you.


11 posted on 10/06/2004 10:56:31 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: AdrianSpidle

I went to public schools as a child. I went to a public university and graduated cum laude. I am now a successful business owner who is certainly not poor. French billionaire Kerry might even call me rich. I resent your comments. They demonstrate your ignorance. Look at the statistics for self-made millionaires, and you will notice that most of them went to public schools. Does the name Bill Gates mean anything to you? I could go on, but it would take a very long time. Citing two examples from your personal life doesn't convince anyone that public schools are inferior. I'm glad that I have the ability to deal with people from diverse backgrounds, rather than being a sheltered little pansy who had to be protected from reality like French Kerry. You make kids liberals by separating them from reality, so that they look at poor people as if they were a sociology project rather than actual people. I went to a public school were 30% of the kids lived in Section 8 Housing. That will make a person anything but a liberal. Your son is probably liberal because he is a kid. I cannot recall who said "Show me a conservative at 19, and I'll show you someone without a heart. Show me a liberal at 50 and I'll show you someone without a brain." He is definetly right about the liberal at 50.


12 posted on 10/06/2004 11:35:10 PM PDT by Johnnyboy2000 (Give it all up tommorrow to live in world without crime, and go back tothe circuit riding motocross)
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To: Spirited


Frankly I could care less what they do. I'm sick and tired of those of us who do send our children to school being accused of not loving our children enough to homeschool. That theme comes out in every homeschool thread here. Extreme arrogance.


13 posted on 10/07/2004 4:17:59 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: AdrianSpidle

Listen my conservative friends, my perspective is of a conservative in Massachusetts where the disease of Left Liberalism totally controls the public schools and universities. I really feel I would have to be an idiot to let those knee jerk lefty teachers and even talk to my precios daughter.

Yes the teachers in Montessori Educare school that she attends are all liberal, but -

1 - they follow an excellent curriculum that is devoid of Left Liberalism and,

2 - they actually listen to me when I tell them I don't want to hear that they're promoting their political ideas in her class.

Sorry if I insulted some of you, but as a product of the long ago but excellent public school system of New York City, I know what I know.

The Public Schools of Massachusetts are more about indoctrination than learning. Maybe your state is different, but I am skeptical, especially if your teachers are unionized and if your state is a Democrat state.


14 posted on 10/07/2004 7:27:03 AM PDT by AdrianSpidle (Public Enquiry Project)
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To: Xenalyte
I'm starting to resent your remarks.

You are not alone.

15 posted on 10/07/2004 7:30:07 AM PDT by Samwise (The Pajama People: They also serve who hunt and peck.)
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To: SouthernFreebird
Frankly this homeschooling elite club crap is getting old.

I wholeheartedly agree.

16 posted on 10/07/2004 7:31:29 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: AdrianSpidle
I have several grandchildren in our local parochial school. The sixth grade teacher put up pictures of Kerry and Bush for a little lesson about the election. Every week she polls the class. It's currently running 27 to 3, Bush over Kerry.

In religion class, the kids were given the assignment "What was wrong with John Kerry receiving Communion in a Baptist Church? Why do you think he did it? Should John Kerry be receiving Communion in a Catholic Church?"

We live in the Philadelphia suburbs, and Al Gore won our county by 200,000 votes. I'm pretty sure Kerry will win it this time around too. However, I'm glad to see the kids in our parish school are not going to be fooled by Kerry's "Catholicism".

17 posted on 10/07/2004 7:39:20 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Spirited

Thank you for your support.

Homeschooling IS indeed hard work, and it requires a great deal of patience and commitment. Yes, there are days when I wish the yellow bus would come to the door. BUT, overall, it is the greatest experience I could ever ask for.

Part of the reason we are homeschooling is because of the idiocy that we encountered in administrators, not teachers. When my husband and I considered homeschooling, I wondered if I was qualified to do so. His response: "Well, given what they have now, we can't do worse!"

HSLDA.org is a wonderful organization that will assist you in making the decision to homeschool.

And folks, I came out of the public schools as well, and I can tell you that I have learned more about civics and government in the past two years than I EVER learned in the Public System. And that was a while ago! The schools are full of NEA supported garbage and a homosexual agenda...if you doubt it, ask your kids about the concept of absolute truth and see how they respond.

Thanks for the opportunity to have a high horse. And I have learned that I am incredibly qualified to teach my kids...I have the public library, the Bible, and Free Republic -- besides pencils and paper, what more do I need?


18 posted on 10/07/2004 8:01:36 PM PDT by andie74 (W stands for Women)
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