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PV Special Report: Dems Draft Scare
Political Vanguard ^ | 09/22/04 | Thomas Del Beccaro

Posted on 09/24/2004 11:08:27 AM PDT by dplinn

Kerry claims Bush might reinstate draft: Kerry, in a fit of desperation, is making an effort to scare Draft age voters. Kerry's campaign trail comments on the draft are coordinated with (1) the introduction of HR 163 by cynical Democrats like Charles Rangel, and (2) the sending of an email by Democrats to draft age men and women, especially those in the college system.

PoliticalVanguard.com Publisher Thomas Del Beccaro is particpating in a debate in October at St. Mary's College in Moraga. The first issue listed on the agenda of debate topics is the Draft. Why? Perhaps the following Email recently sent to College students played role:

"Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages18-26) starting June 15, 2005

There is pending legislation in the House and Senate, S89 and HR 163,to reinstate mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages18-26) starting June 15, 2005. This plan includes women in the draft, eliminates higher education as a shelter, and makes it difficult to cross into Canada.

The Bush administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections. The Bush administration plans to begin mandatory draft in the spring of 2005, just after the 2004

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KEYWORDS: draft; fearmongering; kerry; rangel
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1 posted on 09/24/2004 11:08:27 AM PDT by dplinn
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To: dplinn

Joseph Goebbels would be proud. We have here a case of the
"Reverse Big Lie"

Not only is the "secret Bush draft" a lie,
the truth is a secret Kerry-Edwards draft.

The Kerry camp coordinators have fired up a series of scare
ads on the draft. As is usual for "progressives", accusing
their opponents of what they themselves are doing.

Kerry has accused Bush of having a secret draft plan, based
on no evidence at all. Kerry himself has been trying to
cover up his own statements. What would a President
Kerry be likely to do?

Before getting to the details, it's important to note that
this issue is not primarily about a military draft. It's
about Universal National Service (UNS). Stealing two years
from every life, then 3, and heck, why stop there ...

And National Service is less about service than about
indoctrinating the slaves by controlling the agenda of
the approved forms of service.

But make no mistake about it, if Kerry is elected, they'll
also need a draft to meet military manpower requirements,
because voluntary enlistments and re-enlistments will drop
to near zero. The National Guard is already seeing signs
that people are waiting to see who will be the next
President.

Furthermore, it will be very dangerous to be in a Kerry
military. Apart from more Mogudishu disasters, expect
the troops to be exposed to random war crimes tribunals.

The Bush Administration has done zero to move toward a
draft and does not support it.

The only bills submitted are by Democrats. One of them,
HR 163, bears the title:
"Universal National Service Act of 2003"
it includes the provision:
"...or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the
national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes."

... and for other purposes ...

Completely undefined and arbitrary purposes. Involuntary
servitude, i.e. slavery, doing whatever bidding the
ruling class prescribes. Fear the ruling class that
advocates national service.

Bush has said he'd veto HR 163.
Kerry has said exactly nothing about it.

Although Kerry and Edwards are on the campaign trail
promising to oppose a "draft", they in fact support
UNS, but are hiding that. And even if they were to
oppose UNS, you already know what a Kerry promise
or position is worth.

Where have they been on this issue?

Kerry has removed pages, formerly at:
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/natservice and
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/100days/communityservice_high.html
A copy of the latter was saved from the memory hole here:
http://www.mcgath.com/kerryslavery.html

"As President, John Kerry will ensure that every
high school student in America does community
service as a requirement for graduation. . . ."

The current K+E National Service is more watered down:
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_service/
Apparently, the older position was too honest.

And Edwards? Go see:
http://www.senate.gov/~edwards/issues/educ/service.html

Under the Kerry plan, of course, we can expect
exemptions for the children of rich politicians.

The Selective Service System is already in place, and
could be reactivated in the event of some unforseen
emergency (Canada threatens to invade us :-). If Kerry
is defeated, the SSS, unneeded since Vietnam, is most
likely to remain right where it is today - dormant.


2 posted on 09/24/2004 11:12:03 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: dplinn

I don't see how the dumocrates think they can pin this on Bush. They are the only ones talking about a draft. Rangle has been saying this crap for a couple of years {its only black kids that are in the military ya know}


3 posted on 09/24/2004 11:14:06 AM PDT by southernerwithanattitude (new and improved redneck)
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To: dplinn

S89, HR163. IIRC I've seen these bill numbers before. Mayhaps on the scam that went around a few years ago about the impending bill to put a penny tax on each email?

ennybuddy have more info?


4 posted on 09/24/2004 11:16:25 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: southernerwithanattitude; Boundless

Last week I was in a discussion with someone (pretty middle of the road) here who even BET ME that the President was planning a draft, and that it would happen by June'05.... the first I'd heard about it. This scare is getting to people on the college campus. It has to be responded to, not minimized and disregarded.
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5 posted on 09/24/2004 11:18:37 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: dplinn

I've been doing my best to educate everyone who brings it up that this is a completely democratic dirty trick.


6 posted on 09/24/2004 11:18:42 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Integrityrocks; All

been sitting in committee for almost 2 years now. Dems did this a long time ago...


7 posted on 09/24/2004 11:20:32 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: Boundless

Hey whats wrong with being drafted any way? Only problem i see is that with the PC crap going on, women will be included. Military service is good for the country and the man.


8 posted on 09/24/2004 11:22:16 AM PDT by Rockiesrider
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To: AFPhys

Ever get the feeling that democrats sit around and bet on who has the dumbest constituency?


9 posted on 09/24/2004 11:24:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, BUMP!


10 posted on 09/24/2004 11:28:32 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: AFPhys

> This scare is getting to people on the college campus.
> It has to be responded to, not minimized and disregarded.

So share what I've written with them. Have them read
the legislation and check out the sponsors. Tell them
to do their own research on what Bush people have said,
and what Kerry & Co. have historically advocated. Tell
them to look at which faction is more likely to stick by
their historical positions.

Someone is lying. The only question is who.

Kerry is leading the naive into a trap. He's opened
a "hide out from the draft" building and invited the
kids to come in.

After it's too late, the sign will be pulled off to
reveal a new sign:
Universal Service Processing Center


11 posted on 09/24/2004 11:30:33 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: dplinn

Kerry didn't get it with the Rather episode, did he? Did he think the bloggers would give him a pass? Maybe he wants to have someone to blame for his losing the election besides himself!


12 posted on 09/24/2004 11:31:48 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

Democrats rely upon the stupidity of many voters and the aid of liberal media.

The media will report the charge: "Some are saying that Bush has a secret plan to reinstitute the draft." They will go to talking heads that will reiterate the charge. For balance they MAY allow Whitehouse spokesmen to deny the charge, but the tone of the media's coverage will be that the denial is suspect.

The actual bill may not even be mentioned. If it is it probably won't be identified as a Democrat sponsored bill.


13 posted on 09/24/2004 11:32:51 AM PDT by John Semmens
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To: dplinn

I think the President needs to speak out on this, and put it to rest once and for all. He should say something like "the only people who are trying to bring back the draft right now are all liberal Democrats."


14 posted on 09/24/2004 11:33:19 AM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: Boundless

Send them to the websites of the democratic congressmen who are sponsoring draft legislation.


15 posted on 09/24/2004 11:33:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: John Semmens
The media will report the charge: "Some are saying that Bush has a secret plan to reinstitute the draft."

ABC Radio News reported just that as their lead story a couple hours ago.

16 posted on 09/24/2004 11:34:19 AM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: Rockiesrider

My husband says that, too. He thinks it's one of the best things young people could do. It helps them grow up.


17 posted on 09/24/2004 11:34:57 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
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To: Boundless

I just now "borrowed" your wonderful post to allay the fears of some not so internet savvy e-mailers. Thanks.


18 posted on 09/24/2004 11:36:13 AM PDT by proudmilitarymrs (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: B Knotts

They should start running ads exposing that its the Dems behind the draft plan. Lots of coverage of Rangel promoting the idea to exploit. A few shots of Charlie and Kerry posing for some photo ops would drive the point home. Good or bad in terms of real policy, it doesn't play well to the electorate and must be responded to.


19 posted on 09/24/2004 11:45:15 AM PDT by thecanuck
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To: thecanuck

The Repubs should sponsor an oxygen tax and then blame it on the Dims.


20 posted on 09/24/2004 12:01:46 PM PDT by boofus
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