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The Reason Behind the Forged Memos
the Manchurian Candidate ^ | 09/15/2004 | Me

Posted on 09/15/2004 11:30:46 AM PDT by rocklobster11

Now that we know the memos were forged, the question is who created them and why? It has been reported that these memos came

to CBS from the DNC and may have originated by a disgruntled former Army National Guard member who has an axe to grind with

President Bush. I'm sure the who will be discovered by other news sources soon. I want to focus on the why.

When I originally saw these memos, I couldn't figure out what the purpose of them was. There didn't seem to be any new facts in

them, as everyone agrees that Bush missed his annual flight examination which was scheduled for July 1972, and had his flight

status suspended on August 1. These memos just appeared to provide backup.

However, upon further analysis, it appears that these memos were meant to lay the ground work for further charges that Bush used

cocaine while in the National Guard and had to be quickly shuffled out of Texas to Alabama to cover it up. These are rumors that

have circled amongst the Bush haters, but there has been no proof, and the timeline didn't really support the conspiracy

theories. Lets look at how these memos were an attempt to forward this rumor:

What is behind each of the memos:

Fake Memo What is says Why was it created
May 4,1972 Orders Bush to get his annual physical within 10 days To change the timeline for Bush getting his annual physical, which wasn't actually due until the end of July.

Create

the impression that Bush left in a hurried panic for Alabama to avoid drug testing

May 19, 1972 Phone call from Bush asking about getting transfered to Alabama because he wants to run a campaign. Followed by discussion

of getting the physical later if he decided to keep flying

Show that Bush left town on May 15, called his commander after the fact to see if he could transfer to Alabama.

Also,

create a confirmation that Killian was aware and ok with the fact that Bush missed the physical. If the order from May 4 was

disobeyed, you would expect some sort of official reprimand or follow-up. Since there is nothing in the record, the May 19 memo

provides an answer.

August 1,1972 Bush suspended from flight status due to failure to perform to USAF/TexANG standards and failute to meet annual physical

examination as ordered. Plus order of the creation of a flight review board IAW AFM35-13.

Make it look like there was something more to the suspension of flight status than just missing the physical.

Create the

impression that a flight review board was ordered, so that they can then ask why Bush has not released this document (ie, there

must be a cover-up). It must show that Bush was suspended for using drugs

August 18, 1972 CYA Memo about being pressured to sugar-coat the Bush review. Mentions something about backdating information Perhaps to show that there was some pressure from higher up for a coverup. However, I wonder what record would need to be

"backdated" in order to fit in with the subsequent conspiracy theory that they plan to release. Perhaps we will find

out, or perhaps they will abandon the next phase of the plan now that the forgeries have been uncovered

Why did 60 Minutes run this story last week? I believe it was meant to be a lead in to the Kitty Kelly book, which also makes

these unfounded claims of Bush drug use. 60 Minutes expected there to be a 4-5 day news cycle discussing how Bush had not

completed his guard duty or had been given preferential treatment. After the Kitty Kelly book came out, they could look at them

again in a new light to help spread the rumors of Bush's drug use.


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KEYWORDS: bias; bush; cbs; cocaine; memogate; napalminthemorning; nationalguard; rather; rathergate
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To: cyncooper

Addition:

Here is what she said:

"He did have complaints about Bush. Bush missed his physical and went off to Alabama with none of the paperwork, I remember Killian talking about that," Knox said. "But it wasn't in memo file."

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41 posted on 09/15/2004 12:05:03 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: PJ-Comix
They should also look into probable involvement by Israel.

Wow. I mean, wow. I thought we had some tinfoilers on this site, but just damn.

42 posted on 09/15/2004 12:07:48 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Howlin

More:

"Newly released computerized payroll records show no indication Mr. Bush drilled with the Alabama unit during July, August and September of 1972, The Associated Press has reported."

I am going to take over the News Department at CBS; even I know that those were the months that Bush worked on Blount's campaign and went to the GOP convention.

And there ARE pay stubs for October and November.

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43 posted on 09/15/2004 12:08:13 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: rocklobster11
August 18, 1973

Since we know that this documentation is forged, I wonder if the 1973 date is itself a typo.

Proof that stupid people can be diabolical.

Or that someone smart came up with the concept, and someone stupid was responsible for the implementation

45 posted on 09/15/2004 12:08:36 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: Dr.Deth
W snorts at Camp David, and Barbara is a practicing witch, maybe?

Yes, and someone at the DNC has their reply to Roger Stones infamous swinger ad.

46 posted on 09/15/2004 12:10:49 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: rocklobster11
Now isn't that interesting. The so-called memo from May 19, 1972 1st Lt Bush was supposed to have made a request by phone to be transferred to the 187th in Alabama, when in reality he made the request in writing and it was granted by Lt Colonel Killian

The request was made by 1st Lt Bush on September 5th 1972 as can be seen here

http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/6-Reassignments_Spilt_Training.pdf page 8

47 posted on 09/15/2004 12:12:26 PM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: Tai_Chung
I disagree

So, what if you knew that this was being planned by the DNC as far back as August 11 (prior to the SwiftVets getting much press). See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216791/posts for confirmation that Bob Tuke, a Kerry supported from Tennessee, knew about the planned National Guard-missed physical-cocain story that was coming.

48 posted on 09/15/2004 12:13:20 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: jim35

"And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you damned kids in pajamas!"

49 posted on 09/15/2004 12:15:27 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: rocklobster11
I had similar thoughts this morning. I didn't factor in the Kitty Kelly angle though.
50 posted on 09/15/2004 12:16:25 PM PDT by PogySailor (Proud member of the RAM)
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To: plushaye

DU - "Did Rove plant the CBS TANG documents? Did he do the same to Hatfield author of Fortunate Son, the book which broke the story of Bush's cocaine conviction back in 2000? "

That's another piece of the puzzle solved. I was wondering why this was called "Operation Fortunate Son". I thought it was just about the privilege angle that Hatfield talked about in his discredited book. But if Hatfield talked about Bush's alleged cocaine addiction in 2000, that's why COCAINE is the common denominator in the whole campaign named after his book.


51 posted on 09/15/2004 12:16:59 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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The reason? Very, very simple explannation.
Kerry is drowning...the polls are destroying him, the RNC convention pummeled him, The Swift Vets presence, as well as the book Unfit For Command is depleting him, and he is like a fish out of water so to speak. What do his scheming planners decide to do? Bring Bush down to the same level as he is, and make the whole "past military record" which kerry has totally lacked any credibility on, to Bush's doorstep to negate any validity to Bush having served honorably, in hopes as a last minute attempt to boost kerry's chances in the presidency again. But kerry is finished, especially now once the FACT that these doc's were forged, and especially if they can trace them back to him or his campaign. Kerry will be another Mondale on November 2nd.


52 posted on 09/15/2004 12:19:23 PM PDT by Legion04
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To: Chewbacco; PhilDragoo
Great post C : )

Absolute Hypocrites these liberal media types....and Dem voters for that matter.

Geeeze....looking at the types Kerry was hanging with.....it must have been pot smoker..drug mainline city[Haight Ashbury goes to Washington].

Bong Kerry
Hotknive hashish Kerry
Honey oil Kerry
Tai stick Kerry
Cambodian Kerry
White powder Mah......Kerry : )

Democrats.....the party of manipulating Hypocrites

53 posted on 09/15/2004 12:20:26 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: xm177e2

Maybe this fiasco was set up for two reasons:

1. To get the media coverage off of the Swiftees because they will be coming forward to the Kerry-Viet Cong conferences while Kerry was still in the reserve and the country was in a war. Consorting with the enemy during a war and being a member of the American armed forces at the time seems to be grounds for court martial.

2. To lay the ground work for the rumored "take Bush down if he does slip through and wins the election" plot. Maybe the groundwork for some obscene claim (what I have no idea).


54 posted on 09/15/2004 12:20:42 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: rocklobster11
Well, I guess I don't believe this theory. The pargraph below is from this site. It's pretty technical, but it is clear that the development of drug tests was in the early stages in 1972. Of course, they could be just as stupid about drug tests as they are about word processing.

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In 1972, Rubenstein and his co-workers published the first details of a "homogenous enzyme immunoassay." Others labeled it an enzyme multiplied immunological technique, hence the acronym EMIT®, which is a trademark of the Syva Corporation.
55 posted on 09/15/2004 12:21:15 PM PDT by self_evident
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To: plushaye

Good catch on the Fortunate Son thing. This whole thing might have succeeded if the forgeries hadn't been uncovered. But I think there is no doubt the DNC is behind it and is going to get nailed.


56 posted on 09/15/2004 12:21:19 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: Chewbacco

....Danny boy thought this was going to sink the President?
...

That is my question - who cares if someone took drugs 30 years ago. Yet, if laying a false report they hoped to sell that they "sold" drugs - that might have legs.


57 posted on 09/15/2004 12:22:41 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: rocklobster11
I agree it was a coordinated effort. The fact that the DNC came out with it's "Fortunate Son" ad immediately after the CBS report on the memos means this was staged for maximum effect. What they didn't count on is having the memos exposed as forgeries. They were relying on Rather's reputation to keep that from being discovered. Rather stonewalling the way he is means he's trying desperately to hold up his end of the bargain.

Yep, the memos, Kitty's book, the DNC ads, they were all timed to splatter mud all over the POTUS. Instead, they are all standing around with egg all over their faces.

58 posted on 09/15/2004 12:23:16 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: OXENinFLA

Good article...

THANKS FOR THE PING

59 posted on 09/15/2004 12:25:21 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: rocklobster11

Very good points.


60 posted on 09/15/2004 12:25:45 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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