Shoot The Bastards?

The Autonomist ^ | 8/10/04 | Reginald Firehammer

[Libertarianize the GOP]

I tend to follow certain threads now more than freepers but their are freepers that I skip and freepers that I like to read.

[Southack]

"but do not enjoy anything like the kind of freedom American citizens enjoyed as little as a hundred, of even sixty, years ago."

See, that's just it. If you live in a lilly-White ivory tower, you *might* be able to tell yourself that we were more free 70 years ago when FDR made it illegal to own gold, when Jim Crowe meant that Blacks couldn't vote, and when women were legally kept out of military colleges and many universities, as well as actively discriminated against (both women and Blacks) in numerous professions such as Medical, Legal, and in corporate boardrooms.

And whether it was a Democrat like FDR banning gold, or a fascist temperance movement banning alcohol and gambling, or Democrats using Blacks as living medical experiments against their will (i.e. without consent) ala the Tuskegee Experiment that lasted up until recently, it just doesn't matter to these people. They don't care that a Republican like Nixon ended the ban on owning gold. they don't care who shut down unethical and illegal medical experiments. They don't care that Republicans died in the streets of the South registering Blacks to vote in the face of the Democratic Party machine's opposition (all of the policemen were Democrats who beat the civil rights marchers on the Edmund Petus Bridge here in Alabama, for instance).

Oh no, forget facts. Forget our history. Some people are so uneducated and so isolated in their own little worlds that they think we were more free 60 years ago when the military was segregated and half of the South had restraunts with "No Coloreds" signs. They don't even know that their precious Hollywood and NYC and their anti-Black racism was why early American TV had White men made up in "blackface" to play Black roles rather than hire Black men...or that blood in Illinois and New Jersey had to be certified as White or Colored at one point, lest some White union schmuck get Black blood into him from an operation.

Even forgetting racism and sexism, America of 20, 30, and 40 years ago had widespread bans on civilians carrying firearms. It's only been in the last 15 years that CCW has swept our great nation, re-empowering the individual again.

10 years ago it was illegal, yes, illegal to make a profit from anything on the internet, too. The eBay concept was illegal. Amazon.com's concept was illegal. Free Republic taking donations was in the gray area back then. Trading stocks via the Internet was likewise illegal.

Heck, in two weeks the Assault Weapons Ban will expire, yet we'll still hear these same know-nothings tell us that we're less free today than in the past.

We've armed our pilots, repealing the first federal gun control regulations in our history, yet these know-nothings will claim that we are less free today than back when pilots couldn't pack heat.

How embarassing it must be for the few who spout such nonsense to finally realize that we are *all* more free today than in the past 160 years, and for women and Blacks, that we are more free today than ever before in history.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

[B4Ranch]

#27
Political correctness is their dream of "social justice" forgetful of the freedom they are taking away.

Why is it that for a government to give one thing to one group it must take the same away from another?
"social justice" or just the ineffectiveness of gobermints?

[dread78645]

Why is it that for a government to give one thing to one group it must take the same away from another? "social justice" or just the ineffectiveness of gobermints?

Since you are aware of the reason --let me answer for the folks playing at home:

The state has funds of its own (,or power in a democracy). To give to one, it must take from the other.

[dread78645]

The state has no funds of its own ...

furrfu.

[Brian Allen]

<< I would be proud of America if we could just bring back to our schools saluting the Flag in class and morning prayer. >>

Of course you and I are as one in our Americanism -- BUT:

I would be proud of America if we first stopped calling government indoctrination centers "schools."

Even if we did it incrementally. Change there designation first from "public school" to what they are: government schools.

And then if at the local level we rebuilt our whole school system -- one LOCAL school at a time.

The very idea that ANY government have any business in the schooling of your children or mine is obscene.

And should everyone be very afraid that his children are being taught all about government in schools owned operated and controlled by government and staffed by mobbed-up-unionized "DemocRAT" activists?

Shuddddddddddddderrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ............

[Brian Allen]

<< Now that's real freedom, isn't it?

Hank >>

Not in MY America's Constitution, it's not!

[Noumenon]

"If I must compromise my principles to have friends, I prefer no friends at all. To the extent that others seek freedom and fight for individual liberty, even if we disagree on all other things, at least on that point, I judge them as friends. No one can seek freedom without being in favor of my freedom. There are not many who seek freedom for themselves, and you can be sure they have no interest in yours or mine. In the struggle for liberty, we must take our friends and allies wherever we find them."

You can take that one to the bank. It is my guiding rule of association.

[Noumenon]

Some folks aren't looking for freedom - that would mean others are doing things they don't like. They just want a tyranny to their liking.

[Lurker]

You're largely correct except for that little thing called "income tax" that sucks something around 30% of almost every productive Americans wages.

L

[Southack]

Not federal income taxes. Your state might be taxing you to high heaven, but a family of four making $40,000 per year is now only paying $48.00 per year in total federal income taxes (for a Tax Freedom Day of January 1).

The estate tax is dead (pun intended). Capital gains tax is down to 20% (or less under several circumstances). The tax on dividends is now trivial. You can now sell your home every 3 years for tax free profits (at least, federally).

So if you live in a low or no tax state, you've got enormously more freedom with your own money than you had 40, 20, or even 10 years ago.

In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to show when your taxes have ever been lower.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

[Travis McGee]

It's a short list because most people want to be adequetely-fed slaves. Freedom takes effort.

[Travis McGee]

Thanks for your #42 rant, it had to be said!

[rdb3]

Thank you.

$710.96... The price of freedom
VII-XXIII-MMIV

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[rdb3]

Our Representatives rarely represent the"free" America I used to know and desperately want back for my children.

That begs the question: When did this America you speak of exist?

$710.96... The price of freedom.
VII-XXIII-MMIV

[B4Ranch]

Your question prompted me to post another thread.

OBITUARY: The death of a beloved old friend

[rdb3]

Your question prompted me to post another thread.

Okay, but I hope this reply prompts you to answer my original question (which your new thread does not cover). When did that America exist?

$710.96... The price of freedom.
VII-XXIII-MMIV

[headsonpikes]

We are *all* more free today...

I assume that this post was ironic!

Either that, or you have just proven that Koolaid is not lethal, even in extreme overdose.

[B4Ranch]

A perfect America never existed. The days when men held doors for women and children unknown personally to us, spoke to us adults with respect is fading away.

The understanding of self responsibility is retreating fast. No one wants to accept the fact that they should be responsible for anything they do.

Full honesty isn't seen a requirement in personal or business relations. School administrators refuse to punish students who cheat on exams.

The America I grew up in held these and many of other attributes as necessary requirements to being considered a respected member of the community.

Today, money has precedence over these attributes. The more money one has, never minding if it was earned or stolen is considered the key to success.

The values I tried to instill in my children didn't have anything to with promoting vulgar dishonesty or personal irresponsibility.

Knowing the difference between a big lie and a small one are critical, ie. the vehicle is safe ...your hair looks nice.
Take the dollar sign down and bring back the decency in our society.