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Evidence Shows Crewmate Rev. Alston Never Served Under Sen. Kerry
August 10, 2004 | The Bandit

Posted on 08/10/2004 10:21:42 PM PDT by The Bandit

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To: hawkaw
Are you telling me there is no law to prevent a senator from speaking on the floor of the senate and knowingly misleading congress?

I don't know if there's a specific law about that or not. IANAL but I believe that he would have had to make the statement while under oath to be prosecuted for perjury. My only point was that he wasn't giving sworn testimony when he gave that speech.

As I said, I don't know that kerry has ever made any of his statements when he was legally under oath.

141 posted on 08/11/2004 6:43:32 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob

Interesting and thanks


142 posted on 08/11/2004 6:46:45 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: The Bandit

This account seems to confuse Alston with Michael J. Givens:

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:LTlqxgcsYp8J:www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/politics/9251042.htm%3F1c+%22david+alston%22+kerry&hl=en

Kerry took over command of Alston's boat, PCF-94, after a battle in which the boat's previous lieutenant had been injured. Alston was also wounded in that fight, a clean gunshot through the arm.

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http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/archives/K/2/pub2117.html

29 JAN 1969 Cua Lon Rivers

Early in the morning seven swift boats embarked on a mission to destroy enemy installations along the Cua Lon River. While Kerry's boat and another (PCF72) were probing a canal along the river, Kerry's boat came under heavy fire and was hit by a B-40 rocket in the cabin area. One member of Kerry's crew -- Forward Gunner David Alston - suffered shrapnel wounds in his head. His injuries were not considered serious and he was sent to the 29th Evac Hospital at Binh Thuy.

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27 FEB 1969 Bay Hap River

On an evening patrol with two other swiftboats, PCFs 23 and 43, about 26 miles south of Ca Mu, the patrol took heavy fire, including five rockets. Three rockets narrowly missed Kerry's boat, and exploded on the opposite bank. Another rocket exploded near PCF 94, and the fifth exploded near PCF 23, wounding a crewmember on that boat. The boats suppressed the fire and withdrew. During the battle, a sailor on Kerry's boat, Crewmember/Trainee Michael J. Givens was shot in the upper right arm. Givens injuries were not serious and he was sent to the 79th field hospital in Can Tho.




More interesting reading:

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/journal_day2.shtml

John Kerry's Vietnam War journal

Excerpt from a type-written journal kept by John F. Kerry during his tour of duty in the Vietnam War:

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http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061603.shtml

Heroism, and growing concern about war

By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff, 6/16/2003


143 posted on 08/11/2004 6:50:20 AM PDT by maggief
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To: The Bandit

Nice work Bandito!


144 posted on 08/11/2004 6:55:02 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: maggiefluffs
29 JAN 1969 Cua Lon Rivers

Early in the morning seven swift boats embarked on a mission to destroy enemy installations along the Cua Lon River. While Kerry's boat and another (PCF72) were probing a canal along the river, Kerry's boat came under heavy fire and was hit by a B-40 rocket in the cabin area. One member of Kerry's crew -- Forward Gunner David Alston - suffered shrapnel wounds in his head. His injuries were not considered serious and he was sent to the 29th Evac Hospital at Binh Thuy.

Kerry was not on the boat at this time. It was Peck I believe.

145 posted on 08/11/2004 6:59:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: The Bandit

Look at the "fuzzy" (photo-edited ?) object in the background of the first photograph you referenced, and colors the boat colors and arrangement.

It appears that photo (the one with Kerry in an untucked T-shirt and no rank insignia = pretty lousy appearance for AN OFFICER in the Navy with his crew!) might have been taken on a transfer boat or small craft, where it would be reasonable to have several crews mixed together.

Going on liberty perhaps, going to the support craft upriver?


146 posted on 08/11/2004 7:01:22 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: The Bandit

The set of enlisted in the pictures in completely different.


147 posted on 08/11/2004 7:02:13 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: crushkerry

For your reading pleasure


148 posted on 08/11/2004 7:07:03 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: An.American.Expatriate; Registered; Hon; neverdem
More evidence of an edited picture?

(You pointed out the shadows on Kerry's face and neck are different than the shadows on the other on the left side of the picture.)

The fuzzy (crane ? machine gun? bracket?) object in the middle is warped/twisted/moving) but the guy "leaning" on it is fixed - not moving.

The object could not have been bumped, but the water is visible "though it" on one side, and is covered on Kerry's side!
149 posted on 08/11/2004 7:07:19 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: The Bandit

If this is true, the warm and fuzzy's will be all over FR!! Lying Democrats...who knew!


150 posted on 08/11/2004 7:08:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: concerned about politics

Black male veteran of the cloth...goint to get Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson all revved up...


151 posted on 08/11/2004 7:08:20 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: The Bandit
Sounds like Kerry now believes the swift boat guys who observed his lies from other boats - because they "served WITH him".

Kerry is getting worse than Klintoon with his contortions.

152 posted on 08/11/2004 7:11:40 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ValerieUSA
Look at my questions about the photograph being edited in Nbr 149.....

Not only do the shadows differ from Kerry's side of the photograph to the crew's side, but the transition in the middle has objected distorted and moving.
153 posted on 08/11/2004 7:13:09 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: An.American.Expatriate

There certainly is something fishy here - matter of fact, it's downright deceptive in my opinion. It's a good blending of bodies into one picture, but the light is obviously coming from three different directions.

Great observation!

The question is - who would benefit from grouping these particular people together? Is the sole purpose to put Alston and Kerry together?


154 posted on 08/11/2004 7:17:25 AM PDT by Helen
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To: The Bandit

<< Why did the Rev. David Alston put himself into this position of deception and lies? >>

Free lunch.

Free booze.

Free junketing.

And fifteen every-bit-as-unearned minutes.


155 posted on 08/11/2004 7:20:43 AM PDT by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a hyphenated American -- An AMERICAN-American -- and A Dollar-a-Day FReeper!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Ooookay...maybe my tinfoil needs adjustment, but Kerry doesn't seem to be casting a shadow in that picture.
156 posted on 08/11/2004 7:25:02 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; The Bandit; Happy2BMe

Hopefully, we will hear about this from the Swift Boat Vets.

If we can get confirmation on this from them, Kerry's massive lies and spins will have taken a massive blow.


157 posted on 08/11/2004 7:27:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: An.American.Expatriate

The sun is behind the picture taker in that photo. All the subjects are looking into the sun, so the shadows are appropriate.

Kerry does look like a hanger-on in that picture, like he doesn't belong there. Interesting.


158 posted on 08/11/2004 7:29:02 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

"It's personal for me - My father served in Viet Nam, with the 1/5 1st cavalry Division (Airmobile) 68-69. He was never the same, and afterwards he wasn't the same man my mother married."

Your father, my brother in law, several friends and Nam Vets that I barely know were assaulted, spit on and called terrible names on their return from Nam.

At LAX and SFO these creeps would get on the moving sidewalks in the airport and spit on returning GIs going the opposite direction. Throw stuff at them and yell "Baby Killers!"

We have no idea how many of these young men were scarred for their lives due to this.

Kerry, Fonda and the other anti war criminals were responsible for these vile acts.


159 posted on 08/11/2004 7:34:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
The sun is behind the picture taker in that photo. All the subjects are looking into the sun, so the shadows are appropriate.

That's exactly what I thought. The face shadows are consistent with that. Now look again: where is Kerry's shadow on the boat? The shadow of his body might be below the frame, but at least his arm must cast a shadow.

160 posted on 08/11/2004 7:37:04 AM PDT by Physicist
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