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Evidence Shows Crewmate Rev. Alston Never Served Under Sen. Kerry
August 10, 2004 | The Bandit

Posted on 08/10/2004 10:21:42 PM PDT by The Bandit

For years now we have been lead to believe that both Sen. Kerry and the Rev. David Alston had served together on the PCF-94 in Vietnam, and therefore, making David Alston an eyewitness to Kerry's actions and heroism. The fact that Sen. Kerry has used a famous photo of himself together with David Alston and other crewmates while serving on swift boats in Vietnam, left little reason to believe anything differently. As with most anything having to do with Sen. Kerry -- nothing is ever as it first appears to be.

There can be little doubt that Sen. Kerry and David Alston wanted to deceive people into believing the two served together on the PCF-94 swift boat by the following statements:

David Alston  said of Kerry, "We were in a lot of firefights," Alston said. "You learn a lot about people. After a firefight, John would come up to me and he would put his hand on me and he'd say, 'David, are you all right?'"  And Kerry added: "I didn't know then that I had a man of God on my boat. That's probably why I'm here today." (Orlando Sentinel, 1/31/04)

"I stand here before you only because almighty God saw our boat safely through those rivers of death and destruction, by giving us a brave, wise, and decisive leader named John Kerry." (David Alston in a speech before the Democratic Convention, and the world.)

Rev. David Alston says, "When the bullets started to hit the side of the ship, we found out that John Kerry [could] lead. (Kerry for President Campaign Ad that aired early February '04)

Only problem with the above statements is that the are flat out false because David Alston was never a crew member under Sen. Kerry nor could he had ever participated in combat operations with Sen. Kerry because they were from two different boats. From December to January 29, 1969 Sen. Kerry commanded the PCF-44 while David Alston was the Gunner onboard the PCF-94 under Lt.(jg) Peck. On January 29, 1969 both Peck and Alston were wounded and hospitalized. We know Alston was wounded on that date because his causality report was made available briefly by the Kerry Campaign before they removed it. Here is what it said:

AWFA: GMG2 DAVID MARION Alston, USN, 99T 57 46
BRAVO: ACTIVE DUTY, ATTACHED TO COASTAL DIVISION ELEVEN AT AN THOI, RVN
CHARLIE: INJURY, HOSTILE FIRE
DELTA: 29, JAN 69, 1030H, SONG CUA LON - SONG BO DE, WHILE SERVING AS FORWARD GUNNER ABOARD PCF 94, ENGAGED IN CORDON AND SEARCH OPERATIONS IN THE ABOVE RIVER, GMG2 Alston RECEIVED SHRAPNEL WOUNDS TO HIS HEAD WHEN PCF CAME UNDER INTENSE HOSTILE ROCKET AND A/W FIRE.
ECHO: CONDITION GOOD, PROGNOSIS GOOD. PRESENCE OF NOK IS NOT MEDICALLY WARRANTED AS REPORTED BY CORPSMAN.
FOXTROT: MRS. IDA MCQUILLAR Alston, MOTHER
GOLF: NOK NOT OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED. REQ NOK NOT REPEAT NOT BE NOTIFIED.
HOTEL: SERVICEMAN TREATED BY CORPSMAN AND MEDEVACED TO 29TH EVAC HOSP. BINH THUY.
2. PATIENT ABL TO COMMUNICATE WITH NOK.
3. NO FURTHER INFO WILL FOLLOW.

This confirms the date of David Alston's wounds, but it does not tell how seriously wounded David Alston was. There is no military medical records available for David Alston, and you cannot go by the causality reports description of good and prognosis is good because they will always say that even if you had both legs shattered -- and then there is the fact no medical doctor had yet evaluated him. But we can today see the severity of the wound Alston suffered as shown below from as Rev. Alston stood before recent Democratic Convention delegates.

alston.jpg (19740 bytes)

As one can see, it was a sever wound indeed, and Alston most likely lost tissue and scalp from this injury. This is important evidence for dating another picture of him with Sen. Kerry below.

 

ker_crew.jpg (49728 bytes)

Now let's take a closer look at Alston.

alston_closeup.jpg (24270 bytes)

 

No signs of a serious head wound, or the treatment of such a wound, which would had required visible head shaving that still  would have been visible weeks later if this picture was taken in early March as sometimes suggested by writers. Thus, we can be confident that the picture in question was taken prior to January 29, 1969 when Sen. Kerry was still skipper of the PCF-44 and Alston was the gunner on the PCF-94. How did Sen. Kerry get in this picture then? We know Coastal Division 11 and 13 were participating in joint operations in January of 1969 from the Command History of Division 11 released by the Navy, and no doubt that the crews from each division shared the same faculties and socialize among themselves.

Now that we know when and how Alston was wounded, we can see how Alston could not have been part of Sen. Kerry's crew on the PCF-94 because he had been replaced, just as the wounded Lt. Peck had been replaced by Kerry after the January 29th incident that lead to both Alston and Peck being hospitalized. Was David Alston able to return to the PCF-94 during anytime between February 1 and March 13, Kerry's last combat mission? No evidence that he did or even the suggestion he physically could have with the injury he had suffered,  because we know that on February 28, 1969, Fred Short was onboard and described as an replacement for a wounded David Alston. We Know David Alston was not onboard for Kerry's last combat mission on March 13, either. Therefore, we can confidently say David Alston was never part of Kerry's PCF-94 crew from February 1 through March 13, 1969 because he was still recovering from his head wounds.

Now we need to answer whether David Alston could had been able to participate in combat missions with Kerry from a different swift boat? Looking at the daily combat missions for Coastal Division 11 we do not find both the PCF-44 (Kerry's boat) and the PCF-94 (Alston's boat) involved in any joint missions together. This conclusion is further supported by the fact David Alston or any other Kerry supporter has ever ventured to describe specific missions that Alston and Kerry could have participated in. All discussion of Alston and Kerry together is vague, generalized and non-specific.

Everything we were told by David Alston, Sen. Kerry and his people are clearly false about in regards to Kerry's relationship with David Alston. This is not a mere little slip of the tongue, but an orchestrated scheme over the last few years to outright deceive people about Sen. Kerry's military service. Why did the Rev. David Alston put himself into this position of deception and lies?

"I owe John Kerry my life,"  the Rev. David Alston was quoted as saying, "But John Kerry owes his life to me, too." This just might be true, but not in the sense that Kerry saved Alston's life during Vietnam, but for what he may have done for Alston after Vietnam and what Alston is doing for Kerry now for his run for the White House.

After both Kerry and Alston departed Vietnam, the two stayed in contact and Kerry had invited Alston to his first wedding, to Julia Thorne in 1970, and sent Christmas cards to Alston's parents' house. Kerry aides contacted Alston in 1996, after a story in a Boston paper "accusing him of being a killer," Alston told the Charlotte Observer.

"That was just false, and I was happy to tell people that," Alston said. "In Vietnam, killing an enemy soldier meant saving men's lives. It was something that had to be done." The incident in question here was on February 28, 1969, for which Alston was not part in because he was recovering from a head wound.

David Alston's mother-in-law, Beulah Lowery, has said: "He didn't like to talk about it [Vietnam], so we didn't press him," Lowery said. "But David always appreciated what he (Kerry) did for them. He talked real nice about him." Was Sen. Kerry so good to the Rev. Alston that Alston would do anything for him, like mislead voters on his behalf? Only David Alston can answer this question.

Another troubling question arises from this disclosure -- why haven't the rest of Sen. Kerry's supporting "Band of Brothers" stepped forward and correct the record of the Kerry/Alston relationship, something they know firsthand cannot be possible? Perhaps we will be find Kerry has been very good to them as well.



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KEYWORDS: alston; crewmembers; davidalston; deception; fraud; kerry; lies; swiftboats; vietnam
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To: mewzilla
Well, Kerry's flack this morning on FNC just retracted the Cambodia lie...er, story. I think critical mass has just been reached.

This is big news ... since Kerry went on the floor of the senate and indicated that he vividly remembered he was in this country in 1968. That shows he lied to congress and under oath I would think!

I wonder if Kerry is going to come out and say he was in this country but just at another time ... hmmm ...

121 posted on 08/11/2004 5:54:04 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: The Bandit

Alston spoke at the convention. If this is true, it is big. I would also send to SBVFT.


122 posted on 08/11/2004 5:54:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: smoothsailing

Is it too late for this old grannie to give you a heartfelt thank you for your service?


123 posted on 08/11/2004 5:54:14 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: sirchtruth
I really wish people would get off this VN crap! ... FWIW, this is a bogus issue whether or not Kerry is lying about it.

I don't see attacks coming against his Senate career. Where is the action from the people who can bring Kerry down with his Senate record? Bring it on!!!!!

124 posted on 08/11/2004 5:54:30 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mewzilla

The media will allow Kerry to say he was 'near' Cambodia and ignore the President Nixon connection. Hoping we'll forget the part where Kerry says the experience is SEARED IN HIS MEMORY.


125 posted on 08/11/2004 5:58:05 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: OldFriend

The lamestream can try :) I hope they do, actually. Kerry and his useful idiots in the press can all circle the bowl together...


126 posted on 08/11/2004 5:59:31 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Cboldt
Where is the action from the people who can bring Kerry down with his Senate record? Bring it on!!!!!

Kerry himself! He spent 4 months in VN. He has been a senator for 20+ years.

Name one thing he has done as a senator?

127 posted on 08/11/2004 6:03:44 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: Mo1

Need to watch for red herrings the DNC may toss out there for us to catch and run with that the DNC can factually disqualify.....thus throwing a wet blanket over all true facts.


128 posted on 08/11/2004 6:05:49 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (DIRECT)
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To: The Bandit

Could it be as simple as a typo on the casualty report? Or even poor handwriting? Sometimes a 9 can look like a 4 and vice versa.


129 posted on 08/11/2004 6:07:48 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: The Bandit

bump


130 posted on 08/11/2004 6:13:32 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: hawkaw
That shows he lied to congress and under oath I would think!

Where does the "under oath" part come from? While he did lie in his senate speech, they aren't put under oath before they speak there.

To the best of my knowledge, none of his claims have ever been made under oath. (This contrasts with the Swift boat vets who were under oath when they made their affidavits.)

131 posted on 08/11/2004 6:15:06 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob
Where does the "under oath" part come from? While he did lie in his senate speech, they aren't put under oath before they speak there.

That's why I put ... I think at the end of the sentence. Are you telling me there is no law to prevent a senator from speaking on the floor of the senate and knowingly misleading congress?

132 posted on 08/11/2004 6:19:22 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: The Bandit
Only problem with the above statements is that the are flat out false because David Alston was never a crew member under Sen. Kerry nor could he had ever participated in combat operations with Sen. Kerry because they were from two different boats.

In the interest of keeping a consistent argument, the bolded portion of the above statement would negate almost every member of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. It is undeniable that Kerry and Alston made misleading statements about serving on the same boat, which calls their credibility into question, but (in the interest of accuracy and consistency), they could have been involved in combat operations together while serving on different boats, since those boats worked in close support of one another.

133 posted on 08/11/2004 6:21:19 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: xzins
Does anyone know Kerry's various rank at any given year of his military service?

Ensign 16 Dec 1966

LTJG 16 June 1968

LT 1 Jan 1970

Transferred from active duty: Jan 3, 1970

134 posted on 08/11/2004 6:24:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: The Bandit
If I recall correctly, didn't the Kerry campaign have to take off a story about a battle the PCF 94 was engaged in, because it was with Peck as skipper. If this is the same battle as the one Alston was wounded, this story has some legs.

The only possibility that Alston is in the photo with Kerry's regular crew, is that Alston was filling in for someone temporarily. If you look at the various rosters, for individual boats, you can see that some folks served on multiple boats.

135 posted on 08/11/2004 6:28:47 AM PDT by kabar
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To: xzins
I always louse up the Navy ranks. And don't even go to the enlisted. They've got more letters and numbers than a code sheet.

Navy enlisted ranks look more confusing than they really are.

The letter codes indicate a sailor's rating (his specialty) and not his rank. A Machinist's Mate First Class (MM1), a Hospitalman First Class (HM1), any any other specialty (xx1) all have the same rank (E6) but with different training and skills.

In a way, a sailor wears his MOS (I think we called them 'job codes', though) on his sleeve. It's part of the insignia on most uniform types.

136 posted on 08/11/2004 6:32:31 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Cold Heat

A general on FNC last night addresssed this issue. Very well I might add. It boils down to the definition of "with." I suspect Kerry learned his lessons from Clintonisms well. If men served in the same group (I don't remember the proper name for it), they considered themselves serving with one another. This general said that he "served with" over 800 other soldiers, but he didn't know all of them. The boats were another situation. More than one almost always went out together to cover for one another. The men in all the boats were in the same group. Also being on the same boat didn't mean that they knew more about someone else on their boat than someone from another one. You might have one man on one side of the boat and the man in question on the other; the first man wouldn't necessarily see him at all, wheras another man on another boat may have that man in his sights during an entire action and know much more about he behaved than the other men on his own boat. So I think we have to be careful and use the language as the men did who served in the armed forces in VN.


137 posted on 08/11/2004 6:34:03 AM PDT by twigs
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To: The Bandit
did anyone see Jeh Johnson, an advisor to the hamster boy campaign on Fox and Friends this morning ?

Johnson says Kerry is now saying he was mistaken about being in Cambodia on Christmas '68. He was NEAR Cambodia and was IN Cambodia on a LATER date.

Here we go ................


138 posted on 08/11/2004 6:36:03 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Alston spoke at the DNC and detailed his experience with Kerry in an impassioned speech.


139 posted on 08/11/2004 6:40:44 AM PDT by twigs
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To: The Bandit

Interesting info. I think we can assume everything about John Fraud Kerry is a lie. What a Lounge Lizard.

CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE BUMP:
Pat Buchanan had O'Neil on Scarborough Country last night for most of the program and they absolutely inviserated Kerry. Then a couple of RATliars came on and Pat destroyed them too. My hat is off to Pat for a change, he did a magnificent job. It was revealed that Kerry's Silver Star was awarded without the requisite three witnesses and was never certified. It was granted on the recommendation of his commander based only upon KERRY'S testimony. He has since said had he known what actually happened he would have never given the recommendation. Sick crap.


140 posted on 08/11/2004 6:41:41 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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