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THIS IS TO BLAME FOR THE SPREAD OF AIDS --- not Ronald Reagan
Squirt dot org ^ | 6-2004 | dfu

Posted on 06/12/2004 11:13:40 PM PDT by doug from upland

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1 posted on 06/12/2004 11:13:42 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Thanks for posting this - I guess....

(It's not mealtime at least.)

As revolting as it is, people need to know the truth about the homosexual life.


2 posted on 06/12/2004 11:16:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Rejection of absolutes = absolute chaos, then totalitarianism, and then absolute hell on earth.)
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To: doug from upland

More of the liberal creed: "Allow me to be irresponsible, and in return I'll allow you all to pay for the consequences of my irresponsibility."


3 posted on 06/12/2004 11:19:48 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: doug from upland
The Coming Plague calls these places listed as "disease amplifiers". The coming out of the gay lifestyle in the middle seventies coincided with the emergence of the AIDS virus. The Gay lifestyle was the amplifying instrument for the exponential spread of AIDS.
4 posted on 06/12/2004 11:20:04 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: doug from upland

Is RR also responsible for the epidemic of syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, and halatosis among promicuous gay men ?


5 posted on 06/12/2004 11:20:07 PM PDT by Maynerd
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6 posted on 06/12/2004 11:21:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Rejection of absolutes = absolute chaos, then totalitarianism, and then absolute hell on earth.)
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To: doug from upland

There is always the miracle drug, Trinoasitol!


7 posted on 06/12/2004 11:21:22 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: doug from upland

Keeping their pants on would have done a lot towards keeping the disease from spreading. Both Reagan & Bush 43 have spent millions on AIDS.


8 posted on 06/12/2004 11:22:59 PM PDT by Libertina (Reagan showed us what being a great president was all about. Thank you sir for bringing pride!)
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To: doug from upland
A dishonorable mention would be the spread via infected needles from intravenous drug usage.
9 posted on 06/12/2004 11:30:17 PM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Libertina
Here is a great piece I found ---

AIDS Money Under Reagan: $5.7 Billion

Will You Please Shut up now?

Leftists are already hammering Ronald Reagan. You would think Hitler had just died. But no, Hitler is in the White House, remember? Unless more than one Republican can be Hitler at once.

Here are two of the old familiar lies they're trotting out:

1. Ronald Reagan didn't spend money on AIDS.

2. Ronald Reagan didn't say the word "AIDS" publicly until 1987.

Both of these statements are completely false, as Deroy Murdock proved in an excellent National Review piece. Murdock shows that President Reagan mentioned AIDS publicly in 1987, and that he said the word five times in his 1986 State of the Union Address. And a Congressional study found that the government spent almost six billion dollars on AIDS during President Reagan's tenure.

So shut it. Find a new lie.

It's amazing to me that people think it's so important for a President to say "AIDS." As if saying it will make it go away.

The AIDS epidemic is one of the dumber things the left has tried to blame on Republicans. It's not like Ronald Reagan flew around infecting people. People infected each other, and once we knew the cause of AIDS and how to avoid spreading it, they kept right on infecting each other, and now we live in a time where almost every American who has AIDS got it by doing something he or she knew better than to do.

And don't get me started on the wave of men who deliberately infected themselves because they felt left out. Thanks to them, human beings, as a species, can no longer feel superior to lemmings. After all, lemmings don't know they're going to fall off cliffs. And they don't tax other lemmings to make them pay for treatment after they hit the ground.

To me, it's as if there were an epidemic of people hitting themselves in the face with a hammer. Here's a thought: stop doing that.

History has proven that even if Ronald Reagan had spent the entire budget on fighting AIDS, promiscuous people and drug users would have found a way to spread it anyway. Even with Big Mean John Ashcroft in the White House, the government does not have the power to glue your pants shut.

I know, there are innocent victims. Sure, and somewhere in America, once in a blue moon, a woman needs an abortion because of incest. And every month, someone in America gets rich by winning a lottery. Should we pretend these cases are typical?

The epidemic isn't built from innocent victims, any more than a Cracker Jack box is full of prizes. Seems to me the innocent victims are victims of the victims who aren't innocent, because it's thanks to them, not President Reagan, that the infection is prevalent enough to reach the innocent.

It's telling that people on both sides of the debate use the word "innocent" to describe people who got AIDS through no fault of their own. It means that deep in their hearts, they consider most AIDS victims guilty. And while I wouldn't use the word "guilty," I'm comfortable with "responsible."

Anyway, AIDS was not caused by voting Republican, no matter how badly the left wishes it were so. File that nonsense away with "slave trauma" as an excuse for killing your children. Sometimes the person who does the damage is the person who should be held accountable. Crazy idea, isn't it? Me and my revolutionary notions.

In other news, spin doctors on both sides of the political spectrum are openly trying to figure out just how much President Reagan helped President Bush by passing away, and what to do about it.

I could draw a parallel to worms, but I think I'll stop without developing it. Posted by Steve H. at June 7, 2004 08:56 AM | TrackBack

10 posted on 06/12/2004 11:33:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Maynerd
Is RR also responsible for the epidemic of syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, and halatosis among promicuous gay men ?

Of course not, that was Bush's fault!

11 posted on 06/12/2004 11:33:51 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: doug from upland
You would think Hitler had just died. But no, Hitler is in the White House, remember?
ROTFLOL That's such a great line! BTW Doug, freepmail me with an update about your trip here please. Like to have pizza again?
12 posted on 06/12/2004 11:43:28 PM PDT by Libertina (Reagan showed us what being a great president was all about. Thank you sir for bringing pride!)
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To: doug from upland

Yep, we've had a few public park restrooms shut down around here, because for some reason moms and dads resent it when their kids need to use the bathroom, and they walk in and find the lunch break poofies going at it. I guess they're just homophobes. They should stop being so prejudiced, and just accept that male orgies in smelly, dirty public bathrooms in broad daylight is perfectly normal behavior.


13 posted on 06/12/2004 11:48:04 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: endthematrix
Am I the only one who wonders why we spend so much money on a disease that is mainly spread by immoral behavior (transmission from infected mothers to children, infected spouses and blood transfusions aside) instead of diseases like leukemia that cannot be avoided?
14 posted on 06/12/2004 11:49:27 PM PDT by asmith92008 (If we buy into the nonsense that we always have to vote for RINOs, we'll just end up taking the horn)
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To: doug from upland
PBS has this program on called In the Life, a cheerleading show for all things gay. At the end of the program Harvey Firestein(SP?) does a sort of Andy Rooney bit of commenting upon whatever strikes his fancy. On this particular program Firestein bemoans the fact that after 20 years he is still spending a significant part of his life advocating for AIDS and doing AIDS fundraising of one kind or another. And the stupid bastard finally asked himself, "Why" since it is a completely avoidable malady. Now poor old Harvey doesn't see things so starkly but he does realize that something doesn't compute with him busting his hump to raise funds when others of the gay community are actively trying to get the "bug".
15 posted on 06/12/2004 11:52:35 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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Dale from Harrisburg, PA writes:
I often accused Reagan of not taking action in the AIDS crisis and there are certainly things that could have been done sooner and better. However, Andrew Sullivan, a gay conservative pundit and a person with AIDS had this to say on the subject in his weblog, andrewsullivan.com, today. I think it's worth reading: "The basic argument from the gay left is that Reagan was single-handedly responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people by negligence. This, however, borders on loopy. Reagan should indeed be faulted for not doing more to warn people of the dangers of infection early enough (Thatcher was far better). But the truth is that it was pretty obvious very early on that something dangerous was afoot as AIDS first surfaced. Just read Larry Kramer at the time. Many people most at risk were aware - mostly too late, alas - that unprotected sex had become fatal in the late 1970s and still was. You can read Randy Shilts' bracing "And The Band Played On," to see how some of the resistance to those warnings came from within the gay movement itself. In the polarized atmosphere of the beleaguered gay ghettoes of the 1980s, one also wonders what an instruction from Ronald Reagan to wear condoms would have accomplished. As for research, we didn't even know what HIV was until 1983. Nevertheless, the Reagan presidency spent some $5.7 billion on HIV in its two terms - not peanuts. The resources increased by 450 percent in 1983, 134 percent in 1984, 99 percent the next year and 148 percent the year after. Yes, the Congress was critical in this. But by 1986, Reagan had endorsed a large prevention and research effort and declared in his budget message that AIDS "remains the highest public health priority of the Department of Health and Human Services."


17 posted on 06/13/2004 12:04:54 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland

That aids was caused by Reagan is laughably ridiculous and is an outrage. I just cannot abide these people.


18 posted on 06/13/2004 12:08:36 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH ( A vote for George Bush is a principled vote!)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for setting the record straight.

I lived in that part of the world in the late 70's and early 80's when AIDS started to take off. If it, AIDS, hadn't been a disease of one of the politically-protected classes, the gays would have all been quaranteened, and the disease contained.

There was a gay writer (Schills?) who wrote in the early 90's, shortly before his death (from guess what) about this in a book called 'Bang the Drum, Slowly' (?).


19 posted on 06/13/2004 12:08:53 AM PDT by x1stcav (Remember Pat Tillman)
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To: x1stcav

When I said "that part of the world", I meant the Bay Area.

Don't want no misunderstandings.


20 posted on 06/13/2004 12:10:21 AM PDT by x1stcav (Remember Pat Tillman)
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