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Rumsfield will APOLOGIZE to CONGRESS today! I'm going to be SICK!!!
Fox New Breaking News Alert...

Posted on 05/07/2004 5:36:02 AM PDT by kcvl

I think I'll PUKE!


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To: HairOfTheDog
see my post #140.
141 posted on 05/07/2004 6:35:29 AM PDT by carton253 (I don't do nuance)
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To: kcvl
That just shows that you know absolutely NOTHING about what I am saying

Neither do you, apparently. You're not behaving rationally on this thread. Take 10 deep breaths, and start over.

I believe Fox News before I believe anything that you say.

OK.... And what did Fox News tell you? Nothing -- that's what they told you.

142 posted on 05/07/2004 6:35:36 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lucky2
I think he should instead tell them all to go to hell!

Even Sen. Lieberman is saying that we are MAKING TOO MUCH OUT OF THIS! "There was not enough outcry in the Muslim world after 9/11 or when American bodies were burned"! Even he GETS IT!

143 posted on 05/07/2004 6:35:38 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: TomGuy
Your comments border on mania and provide little incitement for debate, except among lower primates.
144 posted on 05/07/2004 6:35:44 AM PDT by David in Atlanta
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To: Piquaboy
Did FDR apologize for carpet bombing those German city's and Truman apologize to the Japanese for dropping the big one and killing 200,000 civilians? The Rats must be high fiving all over the place.

Are you asserting that the treatment of these prisoners depicted in the pictures was officially sanctioned treatment? ARE YOU?

THAT is what the left means by "apology", and the only thing they're high fiving about is conservatives freaking out over the words "I'm sorry" and not having the thoughtfulness or discernment to distinguish between taking blame or authorizing such acts, or saying those who did them did wrong and we're sorry they did those things.

145 posted on 05/07/2004 6:35:46 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: johnb838
You forgot Condi apologized on Arabic TV.
146 posted on 05/07/2004 6:35:50 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yes, we do "need to draw the line higher" than body part count, BUT the media, politicians and others use the word torture too frivolously.

What happened was NOT torture. Ask the Iraqis who endured it under Saddam. What happened in the prisons under American watch, while shameful, stupid, and obscene, was not torture. Unless you call porn flicks "torture."

147 posted on 05/07/2004 6:36:05 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Know your rights
If sexual humiliation is what it takes to break these b@stards, then I'm all for it. I would reccommend they do not take pictures though, and if they do it would help if they didn't have soldiers grinning like thet have a mouthful of sh!t.
148 posted on 05/07/2004 6:36:10 AM PDT by johnb838 (Cut off an ear and ask them "How you like me now?")
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To: Mo1
they will look petty for attacking

Since when has that stopped them??

149 posted on 05/07/2004 6:36:36 AM PDT by M. Thatcher (.)
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To: r9etb
You are sounding like a fool. Now, we are Nazis?
150 posted on 05/07/2004 6:37:09 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: r9etb
So what are you doing on it?
151 posted on 05/07/2004 6:37:49 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ShandaLear
Have faith and take a deep breath. WHen all is said and done, things will be ok.

I agree

152 posted on 05/07/2004 6:38:05 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: carton253
Thanks. Torture depends on the culture. I'm done. Give up. It was torture.
153 posted on 05/07/2004 6:39:22 AM PDT by madison10
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To: kcvl
The passenger in a stolen vehicle had nothing to do with the murder of 3000 innocent Americans. You need to take a deep breath, and learn what fair/just/humane/acceptable is!

If we have taken the 19 monsters that did such a deed, or bin Laden their leader, we would have the right to strip them naked, and cut them apart inch by inch, and I would be with you saying screw the world opinion and the justice system. This case is different, most of these prisoners are imprisoned on minor charges in order that we may restore law and order in that hell hole that we have gotten ourselves into. I have no problem taking prisoners in without a proof, but there is no, there should never be any defense for stripping naked a bunch of males, and force them in a pile of human flesh while a lesbian bitch laughs at them. As a matter of fact the US should court marshal these idiots who took these pictures, and charge them with treason?

154 posted on 05/07/2004 6:40:25 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: madison10
What happened was NOT torture.

See carton's 140.

What happened in the prisons under American watch, while shameful, stupid, and obscene, was not torture

I don't care what you want to call it, but it was not what AMERICA strives for either. WE should be sorry that it happened, because we are nothing if not better than Saddam.

155 posted on 05/07/2004 6:40:25 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: philosofy123
two points: 1) she's not a lesbian, and 2) Of course the dude said he was innocent. Everybody in prison is innocent, didn't you know that?
156 posted on 05/07/2004 6:40:30 AM PDT by johnb838 (Cut off an ear and ask them "How you like me now?")
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To: kcvl
I don't for one minute think his one and only message is going to be "Mistreatment of prisoners is wrong and we're sorry it happened, that is not how soldiers are trained".

There is nothing wrong with saying that, as it is true. But it is not ALL he's going to say.

And that is NOT what the dems mean by wanting an apology or Rumsfeld to step down.

What they mean is that the president and Rumsfeld authorized this type of treatment. That is what they mean and the dems will NEVER be able to prove such a vile lie, and they certainly won't be able to extract an admission of such.

People here are not reading this correctly and those upset need to get a grip.

With all due respect.
157 posted on 05/07/2004 6:40:35 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: kcvl
You are sounding like a fool.

Be careful who you call a fool. I'm not the one who's puking over a fact-free Fox news alert.

Now, we are Nazis?

No. My point is that there were a lot of Germans who were willing to rationalize away the atrocities the Nazis committed. There are people on this thread who are doing that very thing.

158 posted on 05/07/2004 6:41:36 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: M. Thatcher
See my #157 and tell Rush he needs to get a grip, too.

He is also misreading this.

Love him, but this time he needs to reassess.
159 posted on 05/07/2004 6:42:46 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: kcvl
Even Sen. Lieberman is saying that we are MAKING TOO MUCH OUT OF THIS! "There was not enough outcry in the Muslim world after 9/11 or when American bodies were burned"! Even he GETS IT!


Lieberman is one of the only rats with an ounce of integrity. I could never vote for him but at least he's decent. I'm not really too sad that we've made a mockery of thieves, rapists, murders etc. The don't seem to care much about us eg. 9/11, those contractors who were desecrated etc. Rummy does not need to say he's sorry. I do think however, these pictures came out to try to subvert the election. They've now made a mockery of our military which is aiding and abetting the enemy.
160 posted on 05/07/2004 6:43:05 AM PDT by Lucky2 ( 2004 is the year the Yankees will win the World Series and GWB will be re-elected!)
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