Rumsfield will APOLOGIZE to CONGRESS today! I'm going to be SICK!!!

Fox New Breaking News Alert...

[kcvl]

I think I'll PUKE!

[HairOfTheDog]

My pleasure. ;~D

[Poohbah]

"TomGuy" isn't a "he?"

Very interesting.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Whoa, this stuff was not according to plan. It's as if FDR's troops had carpet bombed a target that wasn't on the list, but some flyboys thought, contrary to orders, it would just be nice to hit.

This is as big a deal as saying "excuse me" to someone you accidentally bump into on the street. It doesn't take away from your stature.

[kcvl]

Boo hoo...


Tell that to the families of 3,000 innocent people! Tell that to the American soldiers and workers TRYING to rebuild the place!

[crushkerry]

Sorry, I meant THIS

[Flipyaforreal]

"Too much apologizing goin' on for my liking."

Me too. Anyone happen know if this will be streamed on the net at all and where? If I don't see a Rummy smack down in some form today, I may just scream, hope he "apologizes" in only the way Rummy can and leaves them (press/media) feeling stupid.

[kcvl]

You are so damn brilliant. Maybe we should let you run this "war".

[carton253]

Hair of the Dog does not deserve your disrespect. You owe her an apology.

Oh, that's right, you don't believe in apologies...

[Know your rights]

Should we be doing more of what was shown in those pictures?

If that is what it takes to keep my family safe from TERRORISTS, YES

How did those acts keep your family safe from terrorists?

[ISonnet]

"He is the senior man at the Department of Defense, and these soldiers wore the uniform of the US military.

He's still accountable for their actions."

Okay, I'm with you, but isn't the investigation and prosecution of the offenders taking accountability?

As Sec Def, he's atop the entire military spread across the globe. No leader can guarantee the behavior of every man and woman of such a force 24/7. He can respond appropriately when individuals or small groups get out of line (or in this case way out of line.) This is an ugly incident in a large war.

I hold him accountable for what he does after he knows about it. If he ordered the actions it's another story but until I hear different, I don't think the captain should go dowen with the ship in this case because "the ship" is not sinking.

Again, my difficulty with the apology is that it now has nothing to do with contrition or regret, but everything to do with politics. In that vein I say it is not called for.

[kcvl]

When Bill Clinton apologizes for getting us in this mess and handing it over to President Bush then I'll agree. Until then they can go screw themselves.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Bring charges against those responsible for the abuse, but don't apologize for something you did not have direct control over.

I heard somewhere there used to be a prescribed reply for situations like this... "NO EXCUSES, SIR"

[HairOfTheDog]

I may just scream, hope he "apologizes" in only the way Rummy can and leaves them (press/media) feeling stupid.

I trust Rumsfeld will be as humble and sincere as he should be. This has been a major embarrassment. We are above this. The voters will not judge the acts against this administration IF it is clear that the administration is the one who MOST wants to see this corrected.

[Know your rights]

When will Reno and Clinton apologize for the Americans murdered at Waco?

Never. Are you arguing that the Bush administration should live down to the standards of the Klintoon administration?

[Know your rights]

When Bill Clinton apologizes for getting us in this mess and handing it over to President Bush then I'll agree.

Are you arguing that the Bush administration should live down to the standards of the Klintoon administration?

[HairOfTheDog]

~snickering~ Thanks carton. :~D

[FITZ]

But has it been verified? It needs to be investigated but did the soldier know for sure what he thought he saw?

[r9etb]

Right. Which means that you know absolutely nothing. And yet you're going to let it make you sick.

Let me suggest that you get control of your emotions, and wait a bit before starting yet another thread for wailing and gnashing of teeth.

And let us be crystal clear about one thing: The prison guards are guilty of a hell of a lot more than "prisoner abuse."

The actions of these prison guards has made our position in Iraq incomparably worse than it was. Worse, attacks will increase, and American soldiers will in all likelihood die as a direct result of this abuse.

The guilty parties deserve to be punished harshly for the damage they have caused.

[HairOfTheDog]

You are so damn brilliant. Maybe we should let you run this "war".

No - we should let Bush and Rumsfeld run it. And they feel the need to apologize and atone for this little mess caused by troops in their command.

[carton253]

You're welcome. By the way... can recognize a sorrel and a bay when I see them... thanks for your help!