[levotb]

Hey, RunningJoke--

You are fantastic! I want you in MY corner when Conservatives for Kerry-Edwards show the GOP for what it really is--a haven for the well-to-do country club set and those who hate conservatives--like Bush, Rove et al! For those of you who disagree or think we are crazy, I invite you to read the Sept. 16th edition (found at WND archives) of The Times of India article (about H-1B visas) in which Bush is quoted as saying some very uncomplimentary things about conservatives and about our hero, Rep. Tom Tancredo in particular. There are plenty of other actions that Bush has taken lately, in particular amnesty for federal lawbreakers, that directly caused his approval numbers to drop 10% (Independent conservatives were blamed for the drop, of course).

Bush & Co. (Rove) have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that they are not to be trusted (Bush said he was for marriage being "between a man and a woman", but he has fudged on taking it to its logical conclusion--a Constitutional Amendment, the Farm Bill, etc.). I think also, my friend RunningJoke, that there is a real dislike for the Bush family in general, especially remembering what Daddy Bush didn't do in Gulf War I and what he DID do (decrying "Read my lips"). There is also the feeling among conservatives that Jeb Bush, who is very close with his brother, failed to protect Terri Schiavo from being murdered byu her husband in Florida, and how "woosie" the future presidnetial candidate Jeb Bush looked after all that (And he STILL can't figure out what to do with poor Ms. Schiavo!).

At some point in time, my dear friend RunningJoke, the plaid panted country clubbers driving their gold-plated SUVs will have to be MADE to realize (by losing a major election) that the Base or a goodly (or should I say, Godly?) percent of them are nom longer going to stand and hold their noses while "voting for the lesser of two evils". We were lied to by Bush and his supporters when they begged us for their votes in 2000. Do you realize that Bush hasn't vetoed a single bill put before him?

I have read the previous chats on this thread "berating" those of us who are pushing for a Third Party. The truth is, there isn't enough time to form one before the Election. So, that is why I said I am a "Conservative for Kerry"--because the GOP and conservatives in general can no longer afford a RINO in The White House. Until our OWN party is formed--and it WILL be formed my dear RunningJoke and fellow conservatives--the GOP must be taught the severest lesson possible--not to take its Base for granted! We're tired of being lied to, set up and having amnesty for illegals and homosexual marriage forced down our throats.

Bravo, RunningJoke!

[MannyP]

I would never and could never vote for a democrat. If you do, you are abandoning the principles that we stand for. Voting for a third party is not to make the third party win, but to make the GOP lose the presidential election, coax reluctant conservatives to register a protest vote in the meantime keeping the majority in congress and being able to point at this and elect a proper GOP candidate in 2008 against whichever of these idiots wins. Let's face it, there is only one (ok, maybe two) Clinton. None of these guys is him.
Let me tell you. I am an Army veteran and lifelong GOP voter. I have a Bush/Cheney sweatshirt from the last campaign and my "Victory 2000" card from the National Committee. I donated some of my meager money to Bush's campaign and cried on election night when I thought that the days of shame were over. Bush is not who I thought he was. The base is getting taken for granted. There is only one way that the average Joe can protest and make politicians hear us and that is to vote against them on election day.

[Tamzee]

At this point, I'm considering to vote a Democrat(leftist) in as President.

Eating a bullet to cure a tension headache.... brilliant.

[Texasforever]

have read the previous chats on this thread "berating" those of us who are pushing for a Third Party.

You confuse berating with plain old ridicule. Go create the 500th version of a 3rd party. Hell in a century or so you may get above 1 percent. The flea running up the elephants leg with rape on its mind can't hold a candle to the “we are going to teach them a lesson this time" midgets.

[MEG33]

Kerry is a flaming Liberal.I have never been so convinced that any democrat in the Presidency at this time is a DANGER to this nation.

[ObiJuan]

Where did our party go. Everyone has gone leftward. Gone is the day of the Kennedy Democrat. Today he would probably be a Republican not because he moved to the right but because the ESTABLISHMENT Republican Party has fallen off the leftward edge. Does anyone really think that we can give back the powers that the increased federal government has taken back to the states. Does anyone really think that it will be easy to end the nanny state especially with a large group of RINOs in Congress.