Posted on 09/04/2003 8:51:55 AM PDT by Polycarp
My anger over the pathological nature of "legal" baby killing and the individuals on these threads who see Hill's crime as somehow "worse" than that of the baby killers has led me to say things on these threads that I don't really believe, just to point out the rank hypocrisy and stupidity of certain posters on these threads.
I've made my points. I'll stop using bitter sarcasm and cynicism now and state clearly:
1)Hill murdered an abortionist, and deserved the punishment meeted out to him by the state. The state has the right, recognized in 2000 years of Christian moral theology, to impose capital punishment. But In all honesty, I have reservations about the death penalty.
2) Abortion may be "legal" but it is still a crime against humanity. Though it would be unjust to try them, by ex-post-facto prosecution once abortion is again made illegal, abortionists still must pay some measure of justice for their crimes. Revoking their licences and general social ostracizing would be minimum and insufficient justice.
3) Vigiliante "justice" and ex-post-facto law cannot be tolerated in a civil society. However, neither can judicial tyrrany and legislation by judicial fiat. Civil rebellion against judicial tyranny and legislation by judicial fiat is not now unwarranted. However, it may in the future be necessary. In the context of innevitable future civil rebellion against judicial tyranny and legislation by judicial fiat it is very likely that certain individuals might engage in vigilantism and ex-post-facto justice. Don't say I didn't tell you so.
4)In the current situation of pathological legalized violence in the form of "legal" baby murdering, everyone must understand that violence will always beget more violence, outside of the abortion clinics. Expect more cases like Hill. It is axiomatic that the violence of "legal" abortion will beget further violence, usually among the intellectually/emotionally/psychologically unstable.
5) Because it is axiomatic that violence, even the violence of "legal" abortion, will always beget further violence, it is evidence of gross ignorance of human nature and Natural Law that certain folks express surprise and dismay at the actions of someone like Hill.
6) Furthermore, to express more outrage at Hill's crime than the pathological violence ("legal" abortion) that precipitated Hill's crime is a symptom of a culture that has completely lost its moral compass and is on the straight and narrow path to self destruction.
Then you also think God was looking forward to the destruction of Sodom and Niniveh. You are as wrong on the latter as you are on the former.
It's very amusing that those who accuse paul Hill of "judging others" have no problem judging others all the livelong day.
If you are fortunate, you will never find yourself in a position to actually test your theory that I am a coward.
You are certainly entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong you might be.
Like I posted earlier, they can try to twist the wording of their posts all they want, but its clear to anyone acting rational that they support, or at least turn a blind eye to, the murder of people performing a legal, yet unfortunate, service.
Perhaps.
What Paul Hill did was wrong. But lets look at the facts.
Paul Hill killed two people. I don't know of any abortionist who has killed that FEW. They usually murder two a day.
Paul Hill killed adults who were not innocent. Abortionists kill innocents every time they do the 'procedure.'
Paul Hill was wrong. But not as wrong as abortionists are.
Why, are you one of those hypocrites he threw out of the temple?
Have you never read he came not to bring peace but a sword? If evil people don't hate your guts...you're doing it wrong. I'm sure He'll be real impressed with your "winning them to Jesus" doctrine though.
Ploycrap: Then you also think God was looking forward to the destruction of Sodom and Niniveh.
Now he brings "God" into this as if he is comparing himself with the Almighty. When will it end?
These men felt the same way you do. Are they friends of yours?
This is exactly what I've noticed in some posts. There is almost a glee, a giddiness evidenced by some that this man was executed (and well he SHOULD have been). But what worries me is that I don't see nearly the concern for the lives that are snuffed out everyday and I don't see nearly the indignation toward the perpetrators--abortionists. Perhaps that's because a thread about an executed murderer of an abortionist is an in appropriate occasion on which to try and score some points about abortion. It's grandstanding, and crude.
As you've no doubt learned, it's impossible to do it without appearing to justify, in some way, a cold-blooded murder.
For the record, I'd like to see Roe v Wade overturned someday, and folks like Paul Hill set the cause back immeasurably.
I judge people by what they say and do, relative to the standard they claim to uphold.
Your words say that Paul Hill is a hero. Your actions do not emulate your hero's; therefore, you lack the courage of your own convictions.
If you are fortunate, you will never find yourself in a position to actually test your theory that I am a coward.
I suggest that you not make further threats of this nature, nor should you try to demonstrate "courage" in my direction. The outcome, from your perspective, would be suboptimal.
There may be some who actually support killing abortion docs. But to acknowledge that abortion is murder is not to lend support to a different kind of murderer.
Any attempt to imply that it does is dishonest to say the least.
I'm not attempting to compare Hill to an abortionist. Hill decided, at great personal sacrifice, to use deadly force to prevent a serial killer from murdering more innocent children. An abortionist is a serial murderer who gets paid cash on the barrel to murder helpless children.
There is no useful comparison between the two.
As far as people labelling me, I don't really care.
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