Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

To: DrMartinVonNostrand
I know exactly what that case was. It was the case that established judicial review as it is today which effectively elevated the Court above the other 2 branches of government. And I thought that when the case was dismissed, it was then successfully appealed by the DOJ and Emerson was found guilty in Federal court. What strikes me as the salient issue is that the final ruling was that the 2nd Amendment is NOT an individual right.

This is wrong on so many counts that I'm not going to bother with it. In the Emerson case, the Appellate Court (I believe that it was the 5th Circuit) found that the Second Amendment was an individual right. You are mixing up the Emerson case with the recent Ninth Circuit ruling.

Try and follow this: Arnold is splitting the Republican vote, effectively keeping the right-wing from ramming a conservative candidate through who could not otherwise win in a regular general election. Arnold is saving the Republicans from themselves.

Here is another post of yours:

I agree McClintock as a single candidate would indeed win the election with a simple plurality.

How am I supposed to "follow" that? More important, why should I try?

So how is Ahnold saving us from anything? If McClintock would have won by a plurality without him, as you asserted, how is he saving us from anything by splitting the vote?

Best to tell your handlers that you are out of your depth here.

Arnold's widespread support is coming instead from all factions of the political and non-political spectrum.

Each of which has loyalties about an inch deep. They don't show at the polls and they will desert him in a heartbeat if the Slave Party fearmongers are successful (which they usually are with anybody but a saint, which Ahnold isn't).

Most people here seem to still buy into The Simpsons-style mass media propaganda that Republicans are heartless, stingy, bible-thumpers who want to destroy the environment.

Some Republican Bible thumpers are defining the cutting edge of environmental policy, like me.

609 posted on 08/13/2003 11:55:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (And the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 603 | View Replies ]


To: Carry_Okie
This is wrong on so many counts that I'm not going to bother with it. In the Emerson case, the Appellate Court (I believe that it was the 5th Circuit) found that the Second Amendment was an individual right. You are mixing up the Emerson case with the recent Ninth Circuit ruling.

Hate to tell you, but the case continued on to one more trial that you must not have been aware of.

A District court found that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right. It is most noteworthy that this was the first time a court had ever mading such a ruling.
The 5th Circuit upheld the ruling, but reversed the dismissal of the case and remanded it back to the District Court, which held a second trial and found him guilty.

Being that the 2nd Amendment defense ultimately did not protect Emerson upon retrial, the unprecidented original ruling was effectively nullified. Furthermore, the Supreme Court rejected hearing the case, so any percieved advancement by this singular exception to established case law is in no way solidified.


So how is Ahnold saving us from anything? If McClintock would have won by a plurality without him, as you asserted, how is he saving us from anything by splitting the vote?

How many times must I explain this?
Arnold is saving the conservatives from themselves because a small McClintock victory by simple plurality now will translate into a huge GOP defeat in 2004. It is called "backlash".


Best to tell your handlers that you are out of your depth here.

I don't have any, but I would like to know where I can get some.


Some Republican Bible thumpers are defining the cutting edge of environmental policy, like me.

I won't argue with that, but the negative stereotypes put forth by the media still stand firm in California.

I never said the left-wing propaganda was true, only that it is effective.

632 posted on 08/13/2003 12:32:36 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 609 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson