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To: Carry_Okie
This is wrong on so many counts that I'm not going to bother with it. In the Emerson case, the Appellate Court (I believe that it was the 5th Circuit) found that the Second Amendment was an individual right. You are mixing up the Emerson case with the recent Ninth Circuit ruling.

Hate to tell you, but the case continued on to one more trial that you must not have been aware of.

A District court found that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right. It is most noteworthy that this was the first time a court had ever mading such a ruling.
The 5th Circuit upheld the ruling, but reversed the dismissal of the case and remanded it back to the District Court, which held a second trial and found him guilty.

Being that the 2nd Amendment defense ultimately did not protect Emerson upon retrial, the unprecidented original ruling was effectively nullified. Furthermore, the Supreme Court rejected hearing the case, so any percieved advancement by this singular exception to established case law is in no way solidified.


So how is Ahnold saving us from anything? If McClintock would have won by a plurality without him, as you asserted, how is he saving us from anything by splitting the vote?

How many times must I explain this?
Arnold is saving the conservatives from themselves because a small McClintock victory by simple plurality now will translate into a huge GOP defeat in 2004. It is called "backlash".


Best to tell your handlers that you are out of your depth here.

I don't have any, but I would like to know where I can get some.


Some Republican Bible thumpers are defining the cutting edge of environmental policy, like me.

I won't argue with that, but the negative stereotypes put forth by the media still stand firm in California.

I never said the left-wing propaganda was true, only that it is effective.

632 posted on 08/13/2003 12:32:36 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
Ah yes...but see, I found the handbook and drew the only logical conclusion available:

Republicans are aliens from another planet.

Starve the children...
Kick the homeless out into the street...
Poison the water, the air, the land...
Ruin the economy...

These are Republican goals...according to the Leftist propaganda.

Brain dead people believe it...but they don't often vote. The simple articulation of the only logical conclusion given the propaganda has enabled me to persuade more Democrats that it's time to become Republican than I care to count.

So...if you don't buy it...don't expect someone else to buy it simply because you're bigger/stronger/smarter or whatever makes you elite.
635 posted on 08/13/2003 12:38:58 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
Hate to tell you, but the case continued on to one more trial that you must not have been aware of.

Furthermore, the Supreme Court rejected hearing the case, so any percieved advancement by this singular exception to established case law is in no way solidified.

No, the DOJ decided to drop the case.

Arnold is saving the conservatives from themselves because a small McClintock victory by simple plurality now will translate into a huge GOP defeat in 2004. It is called "backlash".

BS. Getting the Slave Party out of power is essential to generating ANY Republican contributions. Without leverage you can't generate campaign funds, PERIOD. Further, if Ahnold gave a hoot about Bush he wouldn't have tapped Buffet as a campaign advisor. There is little correlation with which party holds the governorship and how a particular state votes in presidential elections. Finally, if supporting the President is the only reason to vote for Ahnold, you don't give a hang about California which has to live with the results.

I never said the left-wing propaganda was true, only that it is effective.

If left wing propaganda was so effective, we wouldn't be having this discussion because there wouldn't be a recall.

637 posted on 08/13/2003 12:46:04 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (And the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.)
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