[Maelstrom]

If RINOs had the reputation of supporting conservatives after conservatives put them in office, we probably wouldn't be arguing.

You guys don't have that reputation. As a matter of fact, since Jeffords it's been very obvious exactly where the loyalty of RINOs lies. Most certainly this is useful for ending the threat conservatives represent to the ongoing incremental liberalism (I should call it socialism to be honest.) It does not, however, indicate that anything other than another RINO will be elected...because...as I say and as is substantiated by history...RINO's don't support conservatives, conservative values, or conservative ethics.

And...

I believe you're a liberal based on your inability to understand and articulate fundamental conservative values.

Moreover...

You're supporting a Liberal...and how do we know Arnold is a Liberal? He's articulated Liberal positions and policies.

[nyconse]

To compare Jeffords and Arnold is grossly unfair. Arnold has always supported Republican efforts in California. He has given money, time etc. Jeffords was a self interested jerk interested only in himself-he was never loyal to the party-really he was a political prostitute.