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It looks like you've outsourced your soul to another dimension, where the worms never die and the fires need no kindling.

Hold on one moment! I hope you are being sarcastic. Look, I don't like H1B, I don't like government policies that lead to jobs leaving our country, but what was FoxPro supposed to do? He is not a billionaire who decides to hire foreign labor to make 20% profit instead of hiring American and making 17% profit.

He is a guy who needed work. These Russian programmers fell in his lap, he brokered the deal and is now overseeing a major project. As a result he can earn a living. He broke no laws and persecuted no one. Perhaps we should try to walk a mile in his shoes.

Look, I don't like H1B, I don't like government policies that lead to jobs leaving our country, but what was FoxPro supposed to do?

You pretty much sum up how I feel about this thread. I'm staring at the same predicament as FoxPro. I've been officially terminated from my company and hired back as a consultant. And that gig will end eventually.

My solution was a little different. I went in with a group of systems people who have been let go and formed our own enterprise to target a specific tech market. Our chances of success are problematic at best. But the main similarity I see with FoxPro is that we're both essentially middlemen.

Over time, the offshore workers' kinks will be worked out. Their English language skills will improve, the business acumen will get better, the coding skills will get sharper and their overall business sophistication will improve. And beyond that, they will work cheaper still than they are now. The need and desire to have such middlemen as us will evaporate. And the client companies who utilize our services will know that.

I don't blame FoxPro for doing any of this. Indeed, his cleverness and innovation are the stuff of which fortunes can be built. But I don't see, for either of us, that we've accomplished anything more than redefine ourselves as a different version of overhead. And that's easily disposed of.

Much as I've enjoyed my tech career, I simply don't see a future in it. At all. And I've done it too long to easily jump to anything else.

He broke no laws and persecuted no one. Perhaps we should try to walk a mile in his shoes.

He spoke eloquently about his wife's SLAPDOWN, and how he misses "the VAGINA" that delivered his Children!!

My Vagina can relate to that!!!

At a time that a MAN loses his sense of self [9-11], IN THE NAME OF G_D be understanding.!!!

Perhaps we should try to walk a mile in his shoes.

His shoes walked away from his own country. He willingly took a position that hires non Americans to do work for Americans, While still in America!

What he did was abandon his countrymen all the while he himself knew perfectly what they were suffering because of his own knowlege and experience in the field.

What he did was allow another slave wage organization to take the place of His Own Countrymen who went to school, paid their dues, and played the game as they were taught, but cannot find work because a Communist country decided to get involved in the operation.

There is such a thing as keeping integrity while remaining employed.

I have been unemployed for 17-18 weeks now, you dont see me going to work at the local strip bar

or casino,

or abortion clinic, do you?

I hope you are being sarcastic. Look, I don't like H1B, I don't like government policies that lead to jobs leaving our country, but what was FoxPro supposed to do?

That's the main problem I have. He's been painted into a corner where in order to survive (Fox was doing quite nicely for himself before) he has to go outside the US for labor.
You can't get angry at a man finding a way to feed himself in such a desperate time. Would we all rather he just pi** into the wind and become unemployed like everyone else?
The big elephant here that everyone in the administration is trying to avoid looking at is how to make this global economy work for Americans. I don't buy the argument that we're getting cheap shoes and the ChiComs are getting worthless scraps of paper that look like dollars. Real jobs are being exported wholesale to a communist country that would just rather see us wither away and die. Heck, they can always sell their stuff to someone else.
The only solution to this that I can think of is to return to the days before income tax and rely on tarrifs to fund our government. It probably won't be as much income, but then we're spending way too much on things that they shouldn't do.