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To: Zack Nguyen
I hope you are being sarcastic. Look, I don't like H1B, I don't like government policies that lead to jobs leaving our country, but what was FoxPro supposed to do?

That's the main problem I have. He's been painted into a corner where in order to survive (Fox was doing quite nicely for himself before) he has to go outside the US for labor.
You can't get angry at a man finding a way to feed himself in such a desperate time. Would we all rather he just pi** into the wind and become unemployed like everyone else?
The big elephant here that everyone in the administration is trying to avoid looking at is how to make this global economy work for Americans. I don't buy the argument that we're getting cheap shoes and the ChiComs are getting worthless scraps of paper that look like dollars. Real jobs are being exported wholesale to a communist country that would just rather see us wither away and die. Heck, they can always sell their stuff to someone else.
The only solution to this that I can think of is to return to the days before income tax and rely on tarrifs to fund our government. It probably won't be as much income, but then we're spending way too much on things that they shouldn't do.
242 posted on 07/19/2003 9:06:00 AM PDT by lelio
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To: lelio
That's the main problem I have. He's been painted into a corner where in order to survive (Fox was doing quite nicely for himself before) he has to go outside the US for labor. You can't get angry at a man finding a way to feed himself in such a desperate time. Would we all rather he just pi** into the wind and become unemployed like everyone else?
The big elephant here that everyone in the administration is trying to avoid looking at is how to make this global economy work for Americans. I don't buy the argument that we're getting cheap shoes and the ChiComs are getting worthless scraps of paper that look like dollars. Real jobs are being exported wholesale to a communist country that would just rather see us wither away and die. Heck, they can always sell their stuff to someone else.
The only solution to this that I can think of is to return to the days before income tax and rely on tarrifs to fund our government. It probably won't be as much income, but then we're spending way too much on things that they shouldn't do.


Good point. In my last reply to Race Bannon, I'm not jumping on FoxPro at all, he has to survive like we do so I can't blame him as much as the circumstances that he and we are all in. I'm mainly upset at the notion of the free-traders who believe everything is OK and it is not.

I know myself, when I temped to get by, I worked for a software company in the accounting department that brought over H1B's by the boatload from India. Everyone who worked there was H1B except the accounting department. In a big way, I'm thankful for that experience because I was able to see it and experience it first hand of what is really going on. The salaries, yes, the salaries the H1B's made, they ranged from 40K to 115K. Myself, I'm lucky to top 20K with the wind at my back, the sun shining, going downhill, and all 8 cylinders firing. B-P This was in 1996/97. Sometimes you have to go in the Lion's Den to see what is really going on.
255 posted on 07/19/2003 11:40:11 AM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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To: lelio
As you said, I would not be surprised if part of the long-term strategy amongst the Chi-coms is to so degrade our economy that we are easy pickins' a generation from now.
281 posted on 07/20/2003 6:02:48 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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