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Have you noticed that the equal worth pay issue has died? Maybe the Lesbians are less influential than you think.

Perhaps so. Maybe we should all go back to sleep. Having achieved penalties in law against men on the basis of how individual women feel about things, after the fact, they are now satisfied and we will not be hearing from them again. And if rather large numbers of young men are basically 'on strike' against marriage these days, well, it's their loss. Another 20% of kids will grow up in fatherless homes. And that's a good thing.

When voters think that their kids might well go gay due to external influences, your point of view might gain political traction.

What 'point of view' would that be? If my point of view got 'traction', what do you think would happen? I don't recall offering any policy prescriptions. Mostly I expressed amazement, even admiration, for what are arguably the two most incredibly successful cultural propaganda campaigns in human history. Imagine the wholesale demonization of men, serious changes to fundamental assumptions in law, and jiggering the institutional forms around a 5,000-year-old social institution so as to make it unattractive to large swaths of the male population, all in the space of about 30 years. That's no mean feat. I'm not real sanguine about where these changes will lead, but as a feat of social engineering, I stand in awe.

Your formulation seems to suggest that the concern parents should have about homosexual proselytizing in schools turns on whether or not adolescents can be made to "go gay," and that in the absence of that happening, parents can and should encourage such proselytizing, or at least be complacent about it. Perhaps so. That is not for me to say. I merely note that it is not something I would have expected to see in my lifetime, and for that reason hail it as another truly amazing feat of cultural tweaking.

you have a problem from a political point of view

If you're telling me that most people will choose to do nothing about any of these trends, I wholeheartedly agree with you. We will ride them to wherever they go. To that extent I feel a little like Mr. Spock on the bridge of the Enterprise. "Sensors indicate a large and growing fraction of men refusing to participate in marriage." To which the answers are variously things like 'Men should stop whining,' and 'If they would just find a nice Christian girl, everything would be fine,' or 'Well, I've been married for 25 years, and I don't see any problems.' To which I can only reply, "Fascinating."

All evidence points to Western Culture imploding in on itself. One point that I don't believe was mentioned was, "We will not go quietly into the night". I ache inside for what my sons will live to experience.

Nick Danger: To that extent I feel a little like Mr. Spock on the bridge of the Enterprise. "Sensors indicate a large and growing fraction of men refusing to participate in marriage." To which the answers are variously things like 'Men should stop whining,' and 'If they would just find a nice Christian girl, everything would be fine,' or 'Well, I've been married for 25 years, and I don't see any problems.' To which I can only reply, "Fascinating."

Nick - in all of your pondering and wondering what went wrong in our culture, I'm wondering if you noticed that there is a common denominator.

Did you ever stop and ask yourself- why is it that the liberals stand for everything and anything yet they remain united against the conservatives? Conservatists on the other hand have a much more narrow definition of who is considered friend or foe.

What's the key? If you want to be united with the liberals, all you have to do is hold a belief against Christian and biblical principles - then you're part of the team. You see, our country was founded on Christianity and biblical principles - the founding fathers were all Christian. Our laws were even written with reference to specific verses of the bible back then. Our Bill of Rights was derived from the Magna Carta and the Ten Commandments. (Goggle "Magna Carta" "Ten Commandments") - so all you have to do to join the united liberal front is oppose a tenet of Christianity and the bible. I strongly recommending reading America's Real War written by a Jewish Rabbi. Since most people have fallen away from taking their faith seriously, most cannot see this otherwise obvious connection.

The Ten Commandments is the foundation, a well defined foundation, to build civilization. Take that away, then nothing can be agreed upon and laws are made that contradict each other and before you know it what is right is wrong and oppression sets in. Most conservatists don't understand this, they only know that they want what the constitution lays out but without understanding the context of how it came about. It's Christain Christain Christain - not multicultural nor is it Libertarian where God is removed from the picture.

Christiananity is misrepresented and dismissed by popular culture as oppressive, backward, and closed minded in this country - that is exactly the cause of this cultural demise you ponder without end - and exactly where those who want to bring down this country attacked first in the culture war.

Nick, you give far too much credit to those 'few' feminists that have such influence. You see, they are pawns to the evil that unites the liberal forces against God, truth, and reason. The Evil Empire and Axis of Evil, that two conservative presidents spoke of, is in our own backyard. Feminism is only one part of it.

If you're telling me that most people will choose to do nothing about any of these trends, I wholeheartedly agree with you. We will ride them to wherever they go. To that extent I feel a little like Mr. Spock on the bridge of the Enterprise. "Sensors indicate a large and growing fraction of men refusing to participate in marriage." To which the answers are variously things like 'Men should stop whining,' and 'If they would just find a nice Christian girl, everything would be fine,' or 'Well, I've been married for 25 years, and I don't see any problems.' To which I can only reply, "Fascinating."

I hope to find me a "nice Christian girl" someday. I know for me, it would be satisfying but that is only a very small part of the problem. It is like holding the line. It is a good strategy in the short term to prevent from being overrun but as time goes on, you will be. So where does that leave us? I'd love to see us go on the offensive, have a "take no prisoners" attitude like the liberals and libertines have but is there enough of us to win?

Ever since I've been surfing the net, I've noticed an interesting trend. Some people who feel like us have basically just chucked the rest and formed their own insular communities. I've seen this with many Christians who form their own communities with their own schools, shops, businesses, etc. Maybe this is what we need to do. Maybe form our own communities and after "The Collapse" when some form of Atlas would shrug, then we'd be in a position to survive and perhaps rebuild. My father seems to think that in my lifetime, I just turned 37, that the United States will collapse and break up if things keep going the way they are.

I know that's a bit nihilistic but sometimes I wonder if it would be a good idea to form communities or when things break up, have our own separate nation of sorts. The liberals and libertines can have their nation until they screw it up, if they would leave us alone to have a decent place to work, live and raise families. As I get older, when it comes to conservatives/Christians vs. liberals/libertines, I feel that segregation of those two philosophies is the true answer. We break off from them or they break off of us nd go our separate ways.

Throughout the last 30+ years, we have seen the trail of woe that the radical liberals, feminazis, peace nuts, hippies, and so on have laid down. That's why in my last message, if I had a time machine and the means to do so, I would try my best to abort the cultural changes of the 1960's. Everytime I see old films, pictures, and even the "Neo-hippies" of today, I feel nothing but rage. I want so much to walk up and punch their lights out and say, "thanks for taking my country away from me." I really weep at what has gone on in my culture and country. I wish I could commandeer all the C-130's at the local Air Force Reserve Base, round up all the hippies and neo-hippies, load 'em up and fly them to Cuba where the belong so they quit bugging us.

I know I'm getting a bit verbose here, but like you, when I get going, I write a lot. I just felt like I wanted to write down every thought going through my head. If somebody should read this and say "I'm an angry male," all I can reply is "guilty as charged."