[Nick Danger]

Like California?

Yes. I didn't use the California Electricity follies as an example of long-term corrosive infrastructure failure because I figured I'd just get flamed by people telling me it's the greenies, or the NIMBY's, or Barbra Streisand. All that is true, but it also requires that people who can see beyond their noses stop giving a damn whether the NIMBY's win or not. Nobody ever wanted a power plant in their back yard, but the things got built anyway. Daddy built them, because Daddy knew that the screaming brats did not understand the consequences of not having them. So he built them anyway, for the brats' own good. Daddy is gone now. He stopped caring ten years ago whether the brats freeze in the dark. There's a lot of that going on, all over.

[Nonstatist]

It seems the feminization of society is accelerating. As cynical as I am, I never thought we were only 9 or 10 months from gay marriage or would witness the absolute ubiquity of gay TV programming so quickly. I also note that regular marriage rates have plummeted in the last 3 or 4 years. ..So what happens next? If men won't vote their interests,what exactly is going to happen? Socialists dont give up power easily, the USSR notwithstanding.

[AFreeBird]

Ya know Nick, there's a lot of truth in what you say, I hadn't really thought about it in quite that way before, but the whole "who gives a $#!t" aspect of it does resonate. And as for how it will corrode our infrastructure and we won't see it till its too late: Scary.

[KC_for_Freedom]

So he built them anyway, for the brats' own good

Yes. Pacific Gas and Electric used to have a policy that built new plants when ever usage reached a point where full use was predictable. The greens argued that this policy led to growth, because power was always plentiful and power was one of the things needed for growth.

This conflict was finally resolved in the greens favor by the overwhelming nature of leftist California politics. PGE leadership took their ball and went home, arranging with the legislature for sale of the power plants and clearance of their debt in return for the partial privatization that California adopted.

The Daddy did indeed leave the state to its fate, and it came sooner then expected but the result may be an off year change in government. I don't believe it will lead to total chaos, but some may be so inclined.