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Men Behaving Badly - Why?
MND ^ | July 15, 2003 | Karl Glasson, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/15/2003 1:45:35 PM PDT by Nick Danger

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To: Nick Danger
Bump for later.
61 posted on 07/16/2003 9:21:26 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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To: winodog
I thought you were in Kingman already. I am through there frequently and have friends building there. Right now everything is low buck. There's always room for good workmanship but they'll eat your lunch on bids.
62 posted on 07/16/2003 9:34:21 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Nick Danger
I will believe the "resistence" is real when there is an effective law which ends child support paternity fraud.
63 posted on 07/16/2003 9:57:46 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Nick Danger
People don't have enough fuddle anymore.
64 posted on 07/16/2003 10:00:50 PM PDT by Consort
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To: SauronOfMordor
Your friend's wife needs to be bitch-slapped by the courts. Hope your friend hires a shark for an attorney and tosses her ungrateful ass on the street with nothing.

My husband and I are coming up on 10 years in August. I didn't marry him for wealth or status. He's a hard working, God fearing, loving and respectful man who puts in a grueling day's work for us, his family. I am honored to be his wife and don't mind regularly coming second to our two precious children.

When we spoke our vows, we meant them. Forever. Only you. No one but you. Should he die before me, I will not remarry. He is my husband for all time.

What makes him so spectacular? Little things. If I kill myself cleaning the house so everything shines, he praises me. If I cook a particularly nice meal, he gives me a hug and a kiss as thanks. If I doll myself up and wait for him when he drags himself in at 12:30 a.m., he compliments me. When he realizes the kids are learning something new under my guidance, he acknowledges it. And when it's a particularly rough week at work and I'm running myself ragged, he loads the dishwasher or dries the laundry to help me.

But most importantly, when things get really tough, I can find strength in his powerful arms, rest my head against his broad shoulder, and I believe him completely when he says, "It's going to be alright, honey. We'll get through this." Even if he's lying to me, I still believe it, because I believe in him, in me, in us.

Count us in the 50% that stay together and make it work.

65 posted on 07/16/2003 10:09:40 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas
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To: longtermmemmory
I will believe the "resistence" is real when there is an effective law which ends child support paternity fraud.

I don't think you'll see that in your lifetime. The complaint against paternity fraud is essentially an appeal to justice. There is no justice under monkey rules (See #22). It's essentially a brute-force system that shafts non-alpha males on purpose. That is what it is for.


66 posted on 07/16/2003 10:18:40 PM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: Nick Danger
Odd point about monkey rules. The observation is that the brute male spends most of the time protecting territory the non-"alphas" actually produce more offspring which can and do conspire against an overly agreesive "alpha". (just an observation from Jane Goodal's chimps)

This is why the martha burke radical feminists ahve been beta feminizing men and especially fathers. The want only a few specimines of men around for sperm production, the rest can be "wiped out." (literally or legally) TV needs more females to buy female products, since they can't find more they have to produce them by converting men into consumers of female products. (maxim hair streaking products, axe body spray, european mens underwear-evilll) comming soon Man makeup, women asking mens hand in marriage.
67 posted on 07/16/2003 10:24:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: disclaimer
You never heard of Poland's Lech Walesa?

Yea, good counter example.

68 posted on 07/17/2003 12:17:56 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (America will not exist in 25 years.)
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To: Ta Wee; Nick Danger
What you are failing to see is that this is not victimology - it's sociology. Nick is not whining about his lot in life - he's not even making it personal or anecdotal.

What he is saying, better than the author I should add, is that men are better men when they have something to work for. And that thing which motivates their work, primarily, is their progeny. But when society, through burdensome taxation and feminized family courts, routinely strip men not only of their progeny but also the wealth they obtain from their hard work, men will cease behaving in ways that benefit society.

I've seen it in my life many times - give a man a feeling of self-worth and he'll take charge and produce remarkable things. Remove his sense of self-worth and he will stop caring about what happens. Eventually, the women will seize control, complain about how worthless the men are, and produce something inferior to what the men would have done.

Women, on the other hand, have had centuries of experience learning how to manipulate the system without doing the work - they could browbeat the men into doing their bidding so long as they left the facade that the men were still in control. Today's women (encouraged by feminism) are tearing down the facade. They want to rule. They want to control the boardroom, the bedroom and the government and they want there to be no question as to who is running the show.

It's their fatal mistake. Because, as they strip away the things men strive for, they erode the very foundations that built the boardroom, bedroom and government. What will they replace it with when the men will no longer do the work? That might be where society take us in the next generation or two.

69 posted on 07/17/2003 1:51:37 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's new column.)
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To: BobS; Nick Danger
Hey, Nick! Karl Glasson, Ph.D Doesn't understand that men finally are figuring out that women like a confident, maybe "bad boy" who are a challenge! Gals will complain about them, but how many "nice guys" get laid when they want to?

I found a columnist who seems to have an idea of what's going on. He says he got his theories from asking women about the characteristics of the guys they actually ended up with, rather than asking women what they thought they wanted. Looking back at past successful and unsuccessful relationships, and I notice in the successful ones I was mostly doing what he advised to do, and in the unsuccessful ones I was doing the opposite.

Basicly, what characterizes the "bad boy" that winds up with lots of women chasing him, is confidence. He projects to the women: "I will accept you and enjoy your company if you show up with no strings attached, and even be nice and gentlemanly to you, but I will have no difficulty replacing you if you give me any cr-p. I enjoy a woman's company, but I do not need any particular woman, yourself included".

To many female minds "I like you, but don't assume I will put up with stuff -- you are replacable" indicates strength, while "I can't live without you and will allow you to walk all over me if it will keep you in a good mood" indicates weakness. Women admire strength and have contempt for weakness. A weak man may get a (certain type of) woman, but only long enough for her to suck him dry and move on

70 posted on 07/17/2003 4:17:35 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: Nick Danger
I suggest learning to better hide your poisonous hostility towards women.

Most women are not so stupid as to find this alluring, attractive, or any indication of a man behind the words.

Real men LIKE women, and for a good many things other than sex.
71 posted on 07/17/2003 4:58:36 AM PDT by Ta Wee
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To: chookter
Cuz that's when we were allowed to punch the Woman Behave Switch--you know, the one right between a violent or criminal woman's eyes? It turns them right into happy housewives. Use as needed.

Heck, you could probably send me to jail just for the above joke based on the Violence Against Angry Womyn Act....


And, tee hee, of course it is a joke. You harbor no anger or hostility towards women, do you?

I can tell you really like women, and that they can tell this immediately.

As I said before, REAL men LIKE women, and for more than sex. Women, sane ones, do not care for the company of angry 'men' who act as though they would really like to punch them between the eyes.

Do you tell jokes about lynching black people, too?
72 posted on 07/17/2003 5:04:12 AM PDT by Ta Wee
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To: Nick Danger
The evidence shows that feminism is not only the primary cultural cause of the current-day bad behaviours of men, it is also the primary cultural cause of very many other current-day serious societal problems.

This is true. Also one need to understand that feminism affects and destroys also those who appear to be conservative or religious in a traditional way. Like Bolshevism or Nazism the influence of this pernicious ideology poisons through osmosis almost everything.

73 posted on 07/17/2003 5:13:00 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: SauronOfMordor
It frequently happened that colonial powers from more patriarchal cultures came in and established such institutions. They built roads, schools, and governments. But when the colonial powers pulled out, the institutions collapsed; the underlying matrilineal cultures could not maintain them. There is a message in that for us. But instead of hearing that message, our feminist elites are publishing papers about how fathers don't matter, and how they might even be harmful to children and other living things. Those people are going to send us right back to the mud huts.

Kinda like Rhodesia?

74 posted on 07/17/2003 5:16:11 AM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: Tall_Texan
It's their fatal mistake. Because, as they strip away the things men strive for, they erode the very foundations that built the boardroom, bedroom and government. What will they replace it with when the men will no longer do the work?


I suppose the men will all starve if they cease working.

What nonsense! What whining! What UNMANLINESS!

What woman wants a man who tells her, you go be ignorant, let me do all the thinking, and I'll be happy, because unless I get MY way, I'm going to sit in the corner and pout? And maybe stamp my feet, too!
75 posted on 07/17/2003 6:28:32 AM PDT by Ta Wee
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To: Nick Danger
I disagree...it's addiction to pornography. Laugh all you want but a vast majority of males are addicted and it has certainly escalated with all the internet porn. I heard a report once that had 63% of Christian men...including many pastors, are addicted. It's literally killing relationships and lives. By the way, I'm not a feminist...never have been, never will be.
76 posted on 07/17/2003 6:35:33 AM PDT by angelbaby1111
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To: Ta Wee
What woman wants a man who tells her, you go be ignorant, let me do all the thinking, and I'll be happy, because unless I get MY way, I'm going to sit in the corner and pout? And maybe stamp my feet, too!

You're missing the point. The point is, what man is going to be interested in striving and working 40, 50, 80-hour weeks -- for nothing? For the honor of having the end-results of all his work taken away when the wife decides she feels unfulfilled? Men will start taking a pass on that game. In fact, many already have.

BTW, are you sure you're not Lorianne in another personna?

77 posted on 07/17/2003 6:56:52 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: SauronOfMordor
You're missing the point. The point is, what man is going to be interested in striving and working 40, 50, 80-hour weeks -- for nothing? For the honor of having the end-results of all his work taken away when the wife decides she feels unfulfilled? Men will start taking a pass on that game. In fact, many already have.


But of course, men never throw aside Wife 1 for a newer model, do they?

And women NEVER do any REAL work, do they? They just get handed jobs because of affirmative action, taking jobs away from men who 'deserve' them. Then they sit and let men do the work for them, right?

Why don't you simply be honest and admit you just don't like women?
78 posted on 07/17/2003 7:12:07 AM PDT by Ta Wee
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To: Ta Wee
I suggest learning to better hide your poisonous hostility towards women.

Although you're not addressing me, I find your comments entertaining in they are far removed from any logical and reasoned discussion of the topic at hand, but instead are repeated attacks on this persons character. You, from my observations, have a 'poisonous hostility' that you don't 'hide' very well toward dealing with facts that you many not like.

Most women are not so stupid as to find this alluring, attractive, or any indication of a man behind the words.

Your assumption that the poster you're addressing is seeking to be 'attractive' to 'most' women when that is clearly not his objective here. Most voting women have proven themselves unattractive to men interested in preserving our Republic and our families.

Real men LIKE women, and for a good many things other than sex.

Real men love their family, and will do whatever it takes to provide and protect his family no matter how politically incorrect sounding it may be.

79 posted on 07/17/2003 7:16:35 AM PDT by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
=>Although you're not addressing me, I find your comments entertaining in they are far removed from any logical and reasoned discussion of the topic at hand, but instead are repeated attacks on this persons character.

The general attack on women must instead reveal that they really, really like women then? They're merely being subtle, no doubt.

=>Your assumption that the poster you're addressing is seeking to be 'attractive' to 'most' women when that is clearly not his objective here. Most voting women have proven themselves unattractive to men interested in preserving our Republic and our families.

Well, perhaps you are correct. Perhaps they are attempting to attract other men. I wish they would hang out with each other and vent their hatred. I do believe they would enjoy that.

Well, I vote, and I'm female, and I have never voted for a liberal candidate. I was in fact registered as a Conservative when I lived in NY state. But oh golly, I'm a woman, so out comes the nastiness.

A woman would have to be crazy, even if she was as I am, conservative, moral, decent, honest, hard-working (I've done 90 hour weeks on the job)to associate herself with someone who had the kind of venomous attitudes expressed here. She'd have to be brain-rotted to have babies with such a man.

Stop ranting about women if you hate them so much, and stick with other men. Your whining is tedious, and unproductive.

80 posted on 07/17/2003 7:34:23 AM PDT by Ta Wee
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