[PatrickHenry]

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[Dimensio]

Local and out-of-state lobbying groups will try to convince the board that the next generation of biology books should contain new scientific evidence that reportedly pokes holes in Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

I agree. If there is scientific evidence that creates problems for the Theory of Evolution, I'd like to hear it. I won't hold my breath waiting for someone to present what amounts to genuine scientific (as opposed to pseudoscientific or nonscientific or, as is most common, non-sequitur) evidence, though.

[jlogajan]

Many of those groups say that they are not pushing to place a divine creator back into science books, but to show that Darwin's theory is far from a perfect explanation of the origin of mankind.

What a bunch of liars. "Liars for Christ", I call 'em.

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[RightWhale]

controversies about various parts of Darwinian theory that exists between even evolutionary scientists,"

There is disagreement on specifics, no doubt about that at all. But the number who question the basic idea are going the way of the dodo bird. Perhaps those who question the basic idea of evolution have a political agenda, and if so, they ought to be upfront about it because right now they simply appear to be irrational.

[Junior]

I don't understand the attitude around here that crevo threads add nothing to the purpose of this forum. This article is a case in point. Creationism is a religious/political movement which threatens to marginalize the conservative movement and is thus fair game for any political discussion.

That said, I am officially declaring certain posters herein (or soon to be herein) on my "virtual ignore" list. You know who you are; my not answering you has nothing to do with the accuracy of your arguments but rather with my desire to avoid flame wars which will can never result in any good.

[Servant of the Nine]

Local and out-of-state lobbying groups will try to convince the board that the next generation of biology books should contain new scientific evidence that reportedly pokes holes in Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

They need to try keeping up.

"Darwin's Theory of Evolution" is as obsolete as "Newton's theory of Gravity".
Today science has moved on to much more precise theorums, Punctuated Equilibrium Evolution and General Relativity.

So9

[Onelifetogive]

The Texas Freedom Network and a handful of educators held a conference call last week to warn that conservative Christians and special interest organizations will try to twist textbook content to further their own views.

Only liberals and other evolutionists are allowed to do that!

[Right Wing Professor]

Alabama, New Mexico and Nebraska made changes that, to varying degrees, challenge the pre-eminence of evolution in the scientific curriculum.

This is untrue, at least as regards Nebraska. The Board of Education voted 5-3 last year to uphold evolution-only science teaching.

State science standards:

12.4.3  By the end of twelfth grade, students will develop an understanding of the theory of biological evolution.

Example Indicators

• Understand that the concept of biological evolution is a theory which explains the consequence of the interactions of: (1) the potential for a species to increase its numbers; (2) the genetic variability of offspring due to mutation and recombination of genes; (3) a finite supply of the resources of life; and (4) the ensuing selection by the environment of those offspring better able to survive and leave offspring.
• Investigate and use the theory of biological evolution to explain diversity of life.
• Investigate whether natural selection provides a scientific explanation of the fossil record and the molecular similarities among the diverse species of living organisms.
• Investigate and use biological classifications based on similarities.

[only1percent]

A good science textbook should present, in a fashion that schoolchildren can comprehend, the current principals and theories of the scientific establishment, period. Parents who wish to teach their children that the Bible has a different explanation are free to do so. Parents insisting that their children be entirely ignorant of actual science are free to place their children in schools that teach no real science. Once we have school choice, that will be a fiscally-neutral move, but, for now, that may cost 'em.

Anything else, regardless of the motivation, is simply a recipe for further devestating the state of American science and technology education, where there are fewer native-born B.S.'s every year, and where 50% or more of graduate students are imported from abroad.

And those of you who complain about H1Bs and outsourcing -- do you think that the elite prep schools and engineering colleges in India devote much time to life-giving breath of Vishnu or whatever else the Hindu theory of creation might be?

[Jeff Gordon]

One of these days, the ID kooks will get their way with some dim-witted school board. The end result will be with the issue before the SCOTUS. The SCOTUS will then declare that ID has no more place in public schools then does the Ten Commandments.

Until then, a few kooks will continue to cause various amounts of public education funding to be flushed down the toilet rather than used for education.

Sad.

[f.Christian]

You're going to need some peer reviewed psychology ...

try this ---

not man made science fiction (( designeduniverse.com )) !

[f.Christian]

I'm not impressed ... another evo thread !

Creation - astronomy is physical science --- evolution is asstrology // autism ... CLEOS ---

trivia freaks // reality truth monsters (( brain rot - holes )) !

Patrick bolshevik soviet rand henry can't answer simple questions like ... did science exist prior to darwin --- for two years now !

Evolution is some kind of weird autism ... they know a lot about freaky imaginary things and how to pollute minds with their foolishness but the pratical everday reality eludes - BAFFLES them !

The funny thing is how this witch - gypsie science just adapts itself to everyone's weird sick personality ...

evolution is just so hyper - hypothetical --- even the impossible - bizarre is reality --- fact - proven !

[AndrewC]

All you non-Texans butt-out!

Feels good to write that.

[Long Cut]

They never do quit trying to get that camel's nose under the tent, do they? Why, oh why, must religious people continually attempt to use the non-parochial government schools to prosletyze?

I see that this thread lasted until post #38 before the usual suspects began crawling over it. I do believe they keep a rotating watch here, and the one with "the duty" pings the others when ANY pro-science thread pops up.

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Dr. Dino has a new radio call in talk show which comes on M-F at 5:00 pm central time.
http://www.drdino.com
scroll to bottom of his page and click on the radio on line show. Here is your chance evos to have your voice heard. Think of your best question and call in 888-878-8436. I would love to hear you debate him live on the air. He is tough so have your notes ready. :)
His show is wonderful fellow Christians and Creationists. YOu will get a blessing. I will return later. Gotta go make pizza. Blessings to all.

[MEGoody]

I don't see why evos would be afraid of including scientific facts in science books. But it seems that they are.