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Ozzy Says He Now Believes Pot Leads To Other Addictions
MTV ^ | 07.08.2003 | Robert Mancini, with reporting by Gideon Yago

Posted on 07/08/2003 2:31:17 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: commonerX
"You don't need dope to be an dumpA$$ your doning just fine without it."

And you're doing just fine with it.

681 posted on 07/10/2003 7:46:50 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
The constitution is a restriction on government power.

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. "

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment09/

Learn it, live it, love it.
682 posted on 07/10/2003 7:47:14 AM PDT by toothless (I AM A MAN)
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To: lugsoul
I get pissed when I here someone claim to be conservative and tow the Republican line regardless of how liberal the particular issue may be.

Curtailing a state's power is far easier than trying to limit the fed's power. This is the fundamental reason the founders gave us a constitutional republic. Representation at the federal level is a fairy tale but state officials quake in their boots come election time if they've screwed up.

683 posted on 07/10/2003 7:48:14 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: commonerX
Oh, he's not coming back for more when there are people who will call him on it here. He's hiding like a frightened child. He'll only come back when he thinks the coast is clear.
684 posted on 07/10/2003 7:48:41 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: MEGoody
The constitution is the guide line the for the government to follow. The constitution doens't really give people the right to do this or do that, but it is to limit the governments infringement on the people. The constitution deosn't even provide freedom but civil liberties.
685 posted on 07/10/2003 7:51:42 AM PDT by commonerX
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To: ActionNewsBill
("I smoked marijuana and turned into a bat.") although a lot of the drug warriors still believe that happens, along with a penchant for listening to jazz music, raping white women and playing that crazy piano with a maniacal grin on your face.

Hmmm. . .that's not how I see druggies. Every one I've met seems a bit of a wasteoid. Not enough of the brain left to play jazz/piano, and not enough concern for anything other than drugs to want to rape a woman.

686 posted on 07/10/2003 7:51:47 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: lugsoul
Or he'll just round up a bunch of drug warriors that will call us names and tell us how stupid we are.
687 posted on 07/10/2003 7:52:48 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: commonerX
"The constitution deosn't even provide freedom but civil liberties."

Indeed, and those civil liberties do not include the right to do things which harm others. Taking drugs harms others. You know it, I know it, everyone who is honest in their thinking knows it.

688 posted on 07/10/2003 7:52:57 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: toothless
"The constitution is a restriction on government power."

No where in the Constitution are rights granted to the people to do things which harm others. Taking drugs harms people other than the druggie. And you know it.

689 posted on 07/10/2003 7:54:35 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
I don't do drugs. But I guess if that is the only way to make yourself sound right, go right ahead. Most intellegent people can see past those comments.
690 posted on 07/10/2003 7:55:12 AM PDT by commonerX
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To: RockyMtnMan
Unfortunately, the blind support of the WoD is both the Republican and Democratic party line. Because of people who live in sound bites and who can't participate in intelligent discussion and assesment of the issues. Politicians are scared to death that if they take a reasonable stance on the expansion of goverment power or the massive expenditure of resources driven by the drug war, all anyone will hear is that they are "pro-drug." It is the exact same kind of thing reflected in presidio's posts - and it is a damn shame that politics are driven down to that level by those who refuse to acknowledge reality. So they'll get their drug war, and it won't succeed any more than it already has, and it will cost a fortune, and we'll jail an increasing number of our citizens who have never raised a hand to anyone or stolen anything or violating a single one of God's commandments, and soon there will be all kinds of new surveillance techniques we will all have to put up with - we'll probably all have to submit samples, like Gattaca - and these people won't care any more about liberty then than they do now.
691 posted on 07/10/2003 7:55:31 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: lugsoul
"What rights are retained by the people under the 9th Amendment? Can you name one?"

See my posts 668 and 689.

692 posted on 07/10/2003 7:55:33 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
Repeating it doesn't make it true.
693 posted on 07/10/2003 7:55:44 AM PDT by toothless (I AM A MAN)
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To: MEGoody
Since you are relying on the "harms others" argument, why not reply to my #631?
694 posted on 07/10/2003 7:56:18 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: MEGoody
The law will punish someone if they harm someone. There are laws against that already.
695 posted on 07/10/2003 7:57:06 AM PDT by commonerX
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To: MEGoody
Taking drugs harms others

Not as much as a drug dealer who thinks you are a cop or trying to move in on his territory. By your logic you are advocating a ban on alcohol as well, I personally know several people being harmed by alcohol abuse.

696 posted on 07/10/2003 7:58:23 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: lugsoul

697 posted on 07/10/2003 7:59:06 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: MEGoody
"What rights are retained by the people under the 9th Amendment? Can you name one?"

"See my posts 668 and 689."

Since the only thing you've posted relates to rights upi say the Constitution does not give, I take it you can't name one? Just one right retained by the people? Anything? Or is the 9th just fluff?

698 posted on 07/10/2003 7:59:18 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: commonerX
But, but, but we have to punish everybody to keep people from harming others.

That arguemnt doesn't work when the gun grabbers use it, it doesn't work when the DWs use it.
699 posted on 07/10/2003 7:59:42 AM PDT by toothless (I AM A MAN)
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To: Xenalyte
8^)
700 posted on 07/10/2003 8:00:06 AM PDT by lugsoul
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