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Genetic Changes In Mice 'Question Evolution Speed'
Ananova ^ | 5-21-2003

Posted on 05/21/2003 4:53:28 PM PDT by blam

Genetic changes in mice 'question evolution speed'

A species of mouse has evolved dramatically in just 150 years, showing genetic change can occur much faster than was thought possible.

The discovery was made by accident by two American biologists studying the genetic make-up of a common wild mouse in Chicago.

Dr Dennis Nyberg and Dr Oliver Pergams, both from the University of Illinois at Chicago, analysed DNA samples from 56 museum specimens of the white-footed mouse dating back to 1855, and 52 wild mice captured from local forests and parks.

They found startling genetic differences between the 19th century and modern mice.

Only one of the present-day mice had DNA that matched that of mice collected before 1950.

While fast evolutionary change has been seen in fruit flies, such rapid evolution in a mammal has not been reported before.

The scientists, whose findings appear in the journal Nature, believe humans may have been partly responsible for the "new" mice.

"Settlers may have brought in mice with the favourable gene that were able to out-compete mice with the native variant," said Dr Pergams.

Story filed: 18:18 Wednesday 21st May 2003


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: crevolist; genetics
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To: Junior
1600?
1,601 posted on 05/29/2003 3:02:58 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: Aric2000
Darnit, oh well.
1,602 posted on 05/29/2003 3:03:21 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: ALS

I don't see a shirt at all but he'd look good in this one:


1,603 posted on 05/29/2003 3:03:59 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: ALS
Darwin the Creationist

Theistic evolutionist is more like it.

1,604 posted on 05/29/2003 3:04:15 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
"Darwin the Creationist

Theistic evolutionist is more like it."

revisionist libertarianism u say?
1,605 posted on 05/29/2003 3:05:05 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: Dataman
I'm thinking after all that bonding with the apes & turtles, shirts were a bit stuffy.

we see the same thing on here. wild-eyed eloons flailing arms and grunting gutteral ooga boogas
1,606 posted on 05/29/2003 3:06:55 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: ALS
Conversing with you is like talking to a brick wall.
1,607 posted on 05/29/2003 3:07:19 PM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: Junior
But a brick wall is FAR more interesting.
1,608 posted on 05/29/2003 3:08:31 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: ALS
wild-eyed eloons flailing arms and grunting gutteral ooga boogas


1,609 posted on 05/29/2003 3:11:35 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: Junior
"Conversing with you is like talking to a brick wall."

That's like saying something smells like mothballs, then having to explain how you know what moth balls smell like.....

Do you talk to red or brown bricks?
1,610 posted on 05/29/2003 3:12:55 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: Dataman
Eloon tourist trap
1,611 posted on 05/29/2003 3:13:17 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: Aric2000
"But a brick wall is FAR more interesting."

red or brown?
1,612 posted on 05/29/2003 3:14:06 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: Aric2000
I don't see how any moral relativists (( anarcho-loon-STATIST )) ...

should try to pass themselves off as a conservative ---

on a conservative site !


Is the lunatic left fringe crowded --- swarming now ?

1,613 posted on 05/29/2003 3:15:51 PM PDT by f.Christian (( apocalypsis, from Gr. apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover))
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To: Junior
"Directed by all-powerful selection, chance becomes a sort of providence, which, under the cover of atheism, is not named but which is secretly worshipped." Pierre-Paul Grasse,
(1977), Evolution of Living Organisms, Academic Press, New York, N.Y.
1,614 posted on 05/29/2003 3:16:36 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: Junior
This is beginning to feel like the ALS/Dataman self congratulatory comedy thread or something.

Hey, ALS, look at this stupid picture I found, Yo Dataman, check out this moronic picture that I found.


Evolution is crap, and check out this picture man, oh yeah ALS that is funny, but check this out.

In the meantime, as they congratulate each other on their stupidity and general pigheadedness, they say nothing about WHY they think Evolution is crap.

IT JUST IS, so there....

My 7 year old has better thinking skills.
1,615 posted on 05/29/2003 3:17:08 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: Junior; Right Wing Professor
The chief distinction in the intellectual powers of the two sexes is shown by man attaining to a higher eminence - in whatever he takes up - than woman can attain-whether requiring deep thought, reason, or imagination, or merely the use of the senses and hands." Charles Darwin,
'The Descent of Man', vol. II, p. 327.)


uhoh!
1,616 posted on 05/29/2003 3:17:53 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: Aric2000
"Hey, Junior, look at this stupid theory I found, Yo Lurking Libertarian, check out this moronic belief system that I found."
1,617 posted on 05/29/2003 3:19:41 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: Dataman
If you look closely, you can observe one of those palm trees evolving into a shrubbery. ---- (The Knights who say ni!)
1,618 posted on 05/29/2003 3:20:40 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC; Dataman
shrubya...
1,619 posted on 05/29/2003 3:22:45 PM PDT by ALS (Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
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To: ALS
But why is it stupid ALS...

Because it just is that's why Aric, you moron...

LOL, that 167 IQ is really amusing.

And I still see you using that tagline, telling me that you still don't understand it.

I am laughing at your socalled intelligence.

I don't normally laugh at the mentally deficient, but in your case ALS, I will make an exception.
1,620 posted on 05/29/2003 3:22:47 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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