Genetic Changes In Mice 'Question Evolution Speed'

Ananova ^ | 5-21-2003

[blam]

Genetic changes in mice 'question evolution speed'

A species of mouse has evolved dramatically in just 150 years, showing genetic change can occur much faster than was thought possible.

The discovery was made by accident by two American biologists studying the genetic make-up of a common wild mouse in Chicago.

Dr Dennis Nyberg and Dr Oliver Pergams, both from the University of Illinois at Chicago, analysed DNA samples from 56 museum specimens of the white-footed mouse dating back to 1855, and 52 wild mice captured from local forests and parks.

They found startling genetic differences between the 19th century and modern mice.

Only one of the present-day mice had DNA that matched that of mice collected before 1950.

While fast evolutionary change has been seen in fruit flies, such rapid evolution in a mammal has not been reported before.

The scientists, whose findings appear in the journal Nature, believe humans may have been partly responsible for the "new" mice.

"Settlers may have brought in mice with the favourable gene that were able to out-compete mice with the native variant," said Dr Pergams.

Story filed: 18:18 Wednesday 21st May 2003

[Dynamo]

What's the matter, you had no luck going somewhere "to make some money"? Figures.

[Junior]

Truth be told, there really is no "debate" here, as evolution has already proven itself to be a sham.

And your evidence for such a claim is..? Creationists have been sounding the death knell for evolution for more than a century and a half, and yet science goes on its merry way, completely oblivious to such claims. Makes ya wonder, doesn't it?

[Aric2000]

Actually, I just got off the phone with a customer who is about to give me a 75K Purchase order, what have you done today?

Boy, aren't you just a bit pissy today, I am in a much better mood, that's around $3250 in my pocket for just 2 weeks, I like that.

Again, what have you done today, besides being a total dimwit?

[Aric2000]

Whoops, make that $3750 in my pocket for that one.

Teach me to not use my calculator.

[balrog666]

The difference is, I'm not pretending to do otherwise.

So, you admit you're here just to be a jerk? What's the point?

[PatrickHenry]

Placemarker.

[Dimensio]

You insult Eliza.

[js1138]

You insult Eliza.

I don't know. Eliza had a knack for asking the kind of question that made you think -- just by employing a simple formula. The disrupters on this thread do something that is actually quite complex. They zero in on the most irrelevant part of any post and use that as a pretext for changing the subject. That requires a level of cunning I think beyond current AI techniques. It does require understanding to know what points are deadly to your argument.

[longshadow]

repo'd car sleeper account troll placemarker

[ALS]

that hyperlink was valid bubby

at least be honest when you whine

[ALS]

"This is odd coming from the lesser half of a 300+ post insult tag team."

more projectionism from the losing team...

[ALS]

Dynamo vs. Demensio

I like it!

[ALS]

[ALS]

[Dataman]

To Junior: You come in here and start squealing at me like some junior high cheerleader for doing exactly what you have done since you showed up. You, like me, have done nothing but offer quips and snideness, all completely devoid of any substance pertaining to the topic being discussed.

[ALS]

Scientific Disciplines Established by Bible-believing Scientists
Discipline Scientist
Antiseptic Surgery Joseph Lister (1827-1912)
Bacteriology Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)
Calculus Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
Celestial Mechanics Johann Kepler (1571-1630)
Chemistry Robert Boyle (1627-1691)
Comparative Anatomy Georges Cuvier (1769-1832)
Computer Science Charles Babbage (1792-1871)
Dimensional Analysis Lord Rayleigh (1842-1919)
Dynamics Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
Electrodynamics James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879)
Electromagnetics Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
Electronics Ambrose Fleming (1849-1945)
Energetics Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
Entomology of Living Insects Henri Fabre (1823-1915)
Field Theory Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
Fluid Mechanics George Stokes (1819-1903)
Galactic Astronomy William Herschel (1738-1822)
Gas Dynamics Robert Boyle (1627-1691)
Genetics Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
Glacial Geology Louis Agassiz (1807-1873)
Gynecology James Simpson (1811-1870)
Hydraulics Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)
Hydrography Matthew Maury (1806-1873)
Hydrostatics Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Ichthyology Louis Agassiz (1807-1873)
Isotopic Chemistry William Ramsay (1852-1916)
Modal Analysis Lord Rayleigh (1842-1919)
Natural History John Ray (1627-1705)
Non-Euclidean Geometry Bernhard Riemann (1826-1866)
Oceanography Matthew Maury (1806-1873)
Optical Mineralogy David Brewster (1781-1868)
Paleontology John Woodward (1665-1728)
Pathology Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902)
Physical Astronomy Johann Kepler (1571-1630)
Reversible Thermodynamics James Joule (1818-1889)
Statistical Thermodynamics James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879)
Stratigraphy Nicholas Steno (1631-1686)
Systematic Biology Carolus Linnaeus (1707-1778)
Thermodynamics Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
Thermokinetics Humphrey Davy (1778-1829)
Vertebrate Paleontology Georges Cuvier (1769-1832)

Notable Inventions, Discoveries, or Developments by
Bible-believing Scientists

Contribution Scientists
Absolute Temperature Scale Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
Actuarial Tables Charles Babbage (1792-1871)
Barometer Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Biogenesis Law Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)
Calculating Machine Charles Babbage (1792-1871)
Chloroform James Simpson (1811-1870)
Classification System Carolus Linnaeus (1707-1778)
Double Stars William Herschel (1738-1822)
Electric Generator Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
Electric Motor Joseph Henry (1797-1878)
Ephemeris Tables Johann Kepler (1571-1630)
Fermentation Control Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)
Galvanometer Joseph Henry (1797-1878)
Global Star Catalog John Herschel (1792-1871)
Inert Gases William Ramsay (1852-1916)
Kaleidoscope David Brewster (1781-1868)
Law of Gravity Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
Mine Safety Lamp Humphrey Davy (1778-1829)
Pasteurization Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)
Reflecting Telescope Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
Scientific Method Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
Self-induction Joseph Henry (1797-1878)
Telegraph Samuel F. B. Morse (1791-1872)
Thermionic Valve Ambrose Fleming (1849-1945)
Trans-Atlantic Cable Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
Vaccination and Immunization Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)

add these guys to the Eloony list of not credible scientists.
I take it all you eloons will now not partake of the lies these men created/discovered? Such as ignoring gravity, discarding all electrical appliances, etc. I mean, afterall, these guys were just too stupid to "get it".
I know the good professor will, since he claimed all creationists are deluded extremists.
oops, wait, several of you eloons also are creationists....



thanks

[ALS]

[Dataman]

I mean, afterall, these guys were just too stupid to "get it".

Did you get that list from a creationist site? Unless you got it from a loonist site it can't be right... and then only of the FR loonists agree that it is not out of context.

[Dataman]

That's good. This one too:

I think I know who that might be.

[ALS]