Genetic Changes In Mice 'Question Evolution Speed'

Ananova ^ | 5-21-2003

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Genetic changes in mice 'question evolution speed'

A species of mouse has evolved dramatically in just 150 years, showing genetic change can occur much faster than was thought possible.

The discovery was made by accident by two American biologists studying the genetic make-up of a common wild mouse in Chicago.

Dr Dennis Nyberg and Dr Oliver Pergams, both from the University of Illinois at Chicago, analysed DNA samples from 56 museum specimens of the white-footed mouse dating back to 1855, and 52 wild mice captured from local forests and parks.

They found startling genetic differences between the 19th century and modern mice.

Only one of the present-day mice had DNA that matched that of mice collected before 1950.

While fast evolutionary change has been seen in fruit flies, such rapid evolution in a mammal has not been reported before.

The scientists, whose findings appear in the journal Nature, believe humans may have been partly responsible for the "new" mice.

"Settlers may have brought in mice with the favourable gene that were able to out-compete mice with the native variant," said Dr Pergams.

Story filed: 18:18 Wednesday 21st May 2003

[ALS]

"Every one of ALS's quotes that I have been able to check has either been bogus or taken out of context."

extreme statement placemarker
(note the disclaimer in italics)

[Aric2000]

And why would we want to debunk it?

So what? wiptee fricking doo.....

[Lurking Libertarian]

It would have been really stupid of Lurking Libertarian to have made such a statement. Since Lurking Libertarian did not make any such statement, however, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

It's another bogus anti-evolutionist quote. As one scientist has written, "It does not surprise me that I am being misquoted because, after all, this is practically the only defense creationists have."

[ALS]

Lurking Libertarian

Your bogus quotes from Francisco Ayala are debunked here.

The quote isn't bogus.


uhoh, catfite
looks like someone disagrees with your ASSessment there

[ALS]

"And damn, I really want credit for that tagline he's using...ARGH..."

serious question: Do you have any idea how damn dumb that request really is?

[f.Christian]

Darwins Hypothesis was full of hoaxes, that have since been refuted, that is why it is called an ideology -- cult -- religion !

[Dimensio]

Yes. I still assert that you are a liar. Not because you posted a statement that was false, but because you tried to misrepresent the meaning of the statement.

In other words, you're still a liar.

[Lurking Libertarian]

he argued that evolution was compatible with religious belief and slid towards theistic evolutionism.

Exactly my position. Thanks for the support. I'm heading home now. It's been fun.

[Dataman]

[Aric2000]

You have no idea do you?

Even after I explained it to you, you are still clueless.

Man I am gonna laugh at that for a good long time.

[ALS]

"he argued that evolution was compatible with religious belief and slid towards theistic evolutionism.

Exactly my position. Thanks for the support. I'm heading home now. It's been fun."

and all this time I thought you were arguing in favor of evolution. how embarassing to all those that have been blindly supporting your every word.

is there no honor among theives?

[Dataman]

can I quote that?

Yes, but no doubt the

will accuse you of misquoting me.

[ALS]

And someone who goes by the moniker of Demensio is to be taken seriously?

riggggghhhhht

back away from the keyboard... sloooooooowly

[ALS]

*gasp*

[ALS]

can I quote that?

Yes, but no doubt the
eloons
will accuse you of misquoting me.

true, but.. Geronimo!

[Aric2000]

Every time you post it, you are literally saying that the evidence is convincing enough for it to be a theory, not a hypothesis.

Yes, Darwins hypothesis was full of holes, but it has now filled in those holes enough to become a full fledged theory.

You are saying that EVERY time you post it.

Again, I don't mind at all, I just wish there was room for me to get credit for you saying it.

It's not every day that I get a creationut to make a fool of himself, all by himself, and still post it after explaining it to him....ROFLMAO....

[ALS]

I'm sorry but you really need to add "context" to the quote in order to fully grasp it.
Perhaps you can get the Odd Squad to dig it up for you?

[Dimensio]

And someone who goes by the moniker of Demensio is to be taken seriously?

By attacking my userid, you've proven once and for all that you are a complete, utter and total drooling moron without a chance for intelligent conversation. I do hope that you have never and will never reproduce, as the stigma of having a retard like yourself as a father would scar any child for life.

My userID has nothing to do with my arguments. Attacking it is showing that either my arguments are too solid for you to refute or you're just too stupid to come up with any way to counter them.

[Aric2000]

I would say the latter, and he has 2 grandkids, poor things.

[ALS]

"Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory"

A. Admits it was full of holes, but still believes it
B. Admits it wasn't a theory until someone filled the holes with eloons.
C. Moon cheese is green
D. All the above