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To: music_code
Dimensio, Dimensio...the whole world intuitively understands that there must be a God. Man suppresses this truth because he is evil, but he cannot quite escape from it either.

Right. It really helps that you don't have to do anything but assert this. This way, you can claim to be right without having to pony up any evidence.

You're intellectually bankrupt. Your position is completely without merit. You have no means of demonstrating that what you say is truth, so you've resorted to insulting me because I don't happen to believe you. You arrogantly assume that you must be right and that anyone who doesn't believe as you do must be wrong, and you seem to think that just asserting that much should be good enough to prove your point. Like I said, intelligent discussion is impossible with you, because you've made it clear that you are going to act as though your point should be assumed without question.
801 posted on 05/14/2003 12:03:43 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Dimensio
The whole world intuitively understands that there must be a God. Man suppresses this truth because he is evil, but he cannot quite escape from it either.

Right. It really helps that you don't have to do anything but assert this. This way, you can claim to be right without having to pony up any evidence.

You're intellectually bankrupt. Your position is completely without merit. You have no means of demonstrating that what you say is truth.

Does the evidence of nature, fairly considered, point to the reality of a Creator, an intelligent source for the immense information content of every living cell?

You appear to be operating on the assumption of naturalism. Science is, by definition, dedicated to producing naturalistic explanations for everything, explanations in terms of natural causes like physical law and chance, regardless of the evidence, so that one cannot ask the question, "Does the evidence point to something outside of nature?" because that question is forbidden.

Are you willing to acknowledge the intellectual duplicity of this position?

807 posted on 05/14/2003 12:48:31 PM PDT by music_code
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To: Dimensio
The whole world intuitively understands that there must be a God. Man suppresses this truth because he is evil, but he cannot quite escape from it either.

Right. It really helps that you don't have to do anything but assert this. This way, you can claim to be right without having to pony up any evidence.

You're intellectually bankrupt. Your position is completely without merit. You have no means of demonstrating that what you say is truth.

Perhaps this will help:

1. Some things undeniably exist.

2. My non-existence is possible.

3. Whatever has the possibility not to exist is currently caused to exist by another.

4. There cannot be an infinite regress of current causes of existence.

5. Therefore, a first uncaused cause of my current existence exists.

6. This uncaused cause must be infinite, unchanging, all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-perfect.

7. This infinitely perfect being is appropriately called "God".

8. Therefore, God exists.

9. This God who exists is identical to the God described in the Christian Scriptures.

10. Therefore, the God described in the Bible exists.

920 posted on 05/15/2003 6:55:49 AM PDT by music_code
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