DeLay: "Zero chance" for (Assault Weapons Ban) renewal passing in House

AWBanSunset.com ^ | 5/9/03 | Stuart Roy

[E. Pluribus Unum]

House Majority leader Tom DeLay, through a spokesman, says the recently introduced AW Ban renewal bills (the Senate version, or the significantly more restrictive House version) will not pass in the House of Representatives.

[Publicus]

"All that has to happen for the AWB renewal to become history is for the House to ignore it, but that is not good enough for YOU. YOU demand that Bush beat his chest and make pious pronouncements about the sacredness of the Constitution."

No demand here. I support President Bush and fully expect him to continue his superb leadership by continuing to plainly say what he means and mean what he plainly says- a mark of a true leader. If someone brings something for him to sign that undermines the Constitution, I absolutely expect him to reject any such bad legislation- as per his duty. Why are you uncomfortable with that?

In fact just today, he- as you would put it- beat his chest and made a pious pronouncement with scolding remarks he made against certain members of our Congress who are arbitrarily obstructing the judicial appointments.

He didn't say, I'll wait to see if it crosses my desk- he made a principled stand. What's wrong with that?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If someone brings something for him to sign that undermines the Constitution, I absolutely expect him to reject any such bad legislation- as per his duty. Why are you uncomfortable with that?

If the AWB renewal never hits his desk, then the issue is moot.

Why are YOU uncomfortable with THAT?

[yodel hound]

tell it my brother

[Publicus]

"does the federal government have any constitutional authority to limit weapon ownership by citizens that have not committed felonies?"

No. The Constititution plainly states that your right to bear arms cannot be infringed upon.




"If yes, how far does this authority extend and, given the second amendment, where in the constitution is this authority given?"

It is in fact specified in the 2nd amendment. THAT is the authority and the fact the Creator has endowed each of us the right to protect ourselves, our families, our property, communities, and our great Republic from all enemies foreign and domestic.




"If not, should all arms (including weapons designed for combat, such as grenades and flamethrowers) be readily available?"

To me, it is simply a matter of how much you trust the overwhelming majority of your fellow citizens. By way of one example, a fully loaded fuel tanker truck has the explosive power of several thousand grenades and flamethrowers combined. It's driver is heading towards you at approximately 65 miles per hour as you are driving in the adjoining lane in the opposite direction at approximately the same velocity. You know what would happen if you swerve into one another's lane and collide but you don't freak out about it because you are alert behind the wheel and you trust him to operate his vehicle properly and in a safe manner JUST like he trusts you do the same with your vehicle. It is this trust that binds our society.

With the EXACT same token, I couldn't care less if my neighbor owns one handgun, twelve machine guns, fifty grenades, or a hundred Abrams tanks. I trust he is taking proper precautions to operate those devices in a safe and appropriate manner with the same care he uses to operate his chainsaw, powermower, nailgun, snowblower, and other potentially lethal devices.

Now, I absolutely DO worry about the approximately 4% of our population which is composed of individuals who are hell bent on hurting fellow citizens- we know them as criminals/terrorists. Now THEY are the ones who we need to keep weapons away from. We have nothing to fear from law-abiding Americans. Gun control is ONLY for those who seek to harm Americans. Besides, why would I want to restrict a fellow American's ability to protect himself/herself? Why would anybody want to disarm good, law abiding Americans- UNLESS they might be fixing on harming them...

[Publicus]

"If the AWB renewal never hits his desk, then the issue is moot."

You are right. I just do not see any reason for W to change his plain speaking ways and I do not want him to. He's doing a fanastic job just the way he is, G*d Bless him.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I just do not see any reason for W to change his plain speaking ways and I do not want him to.

I must have missed something. You were implying that he had.

[Publicus]

"Amen. It will take years to peel back the layers of liberalism which began with FDR. It can't be done overnight. The checks and balances deliberately written into our Constitution to provide stability also serve to prevent sudden reversals in any direction."


That's what they told President Reagan before he successfully launched his revolution against the morally and financially bankrupt policies of the liberal demonrats. A revolution whch we are benefitting from to this day.

[Publicus]

"I must have missed something. You were implying that he had."

No. I was simply expressing I would be concerned IF he changed his plain speaking ways and principled leadership of our great Republic- indeed of the world. I know the demonrats are ALWAYS scamming for ways to trap the guy JUST like they did to H.W. Bush. Remember, he "compromised" on his principles and look what happened- we ALL paid the price with a catastrophe which we are all STILL paying for.

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

You aren't worth the effort to argue with. But your whining has had an effect, the mods decided to give me a hard time. Congratulations. If you can't win an argument, whine to daddy.

[1stFreedom]

It's extremely easy:

http://www.quarterbore.com/nfa/lightninglink.html

[1stFreedom]

Well, if you really want to know, here is a link:

http://www.quarterbore.com/nfa/lightninglink.html

Converting an AR-15 to full auto is easier than you think.

[supercat]

Converting an AR-15 to full auto is easier than you think.

How is that any easier than converting, say, an SKS? The SKS has a mechanism which will catch the hammer to prevent firing out-of-battery. Although on a normal SKS this mechanism is designed to 'catch' and not permit the action to close fully if it does, brazing or gluing on a tiny bit of material could easily fix that (filing would also work, but could create a dangerous condition if the trigger were pulled when the weapon was out of battery; in that case, the weapon would fire when put in battery even if the trigger were subsequently released).

BTW, I've noticed that while the AR-15, AK-47, and Mac-10 all have what I term "escapement"-style actions on their semi-automatics, many other semi-autos use a mechanism where the trigger is disconnected from a spring-loaded sear. Is this distinction a function of the former's select-fire lineage?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If you can't win an argument, whine to daddy.

What goes around, comes around.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

No. I was simply expressing I would be concerned IF he changed his plain speaking ways and principled leadership of our great Republic- indeed of the world.

I guess I don't sit around worrying about what might happen. Some people evidently have so much time on their hands they have to invent things that will bother them if they happen.

[supercat]

Converting an AR-15 to full auto is easier than you think.

BTW, one thing I was wondering about awhile ago: would it be practical to design a firearm which cycled using stored spring power rather than energy from the departing round? The definition of a semi-automatic specifically states that a semi-automatic firearm uses energy from the departing round to cycle in the next one. If a firearm used large wind-up spring (or, for that matter, an electric battery) to stored the necessary energy, it would not be "semi-automatic".

On a related note, I've sometimes thought it would be cool to have a .22 or .32 pistol (anything larger and the grip would be a monster) which could feed from two ten-round magazines. The feeding system would feed continuously from one until empty, then switch to the other. The mag-release button would, if pushed one way, drop either or both magazines only if empty; if pushed another way, it would drop both regardless. Tactical reloads could thus be accomplished with 11 rounds still available.

Interesting concept, or too complicated?

[ozzymandus]

Thanks, I read about these in Small Arms Review, but i really have doubts about these drop-in dealies working. Besides, 10 years in the pen would really cool my enthuseasm.

[gdc61]

"Yeah. OK. But what about the nervous nellies who fret about family and gay issues etc.? What will Delay do for them?"
you mean the log cabin repub's? they can rot. they all lie when they say they vote GOP. just an attempt to infiltrate.

[gdc61]

have you seen airport security lately? do you really think this ban will have ANY affect on criminals or terrorists. then try this; remove ALL restrictions on the 2nd.... how would those 12 terrorists you speak of fair in an airport where virtually every sane person who wants to, can carry? dead terrorists.

[Asclepius]

you mean the log cabin repub's?

Precisely not. I mean social conservatives.

[gdc61]

ahh. my bad.