DeLay: "Zero chance" for (Assault Weapons Ban) renewal passing in House

AWBanSunset.com ^ | 5/9/03 | Stuart Roy

[E. Pluribus Unum]

House Majority leader Tom DeLay, through a spokesman, says the recently introduced AW Ban renewal bills (the Senate version, or the significantly more restrictive House version) will not pass in the House of Representatives.

[BenR2]

From my perspective Bush has been pandering to the center on the former and to foreign nationals on the latter. Neither posture strikes me as conservative or showing character.

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But, . . . . According to a number of Bushbot posters in this forum, character on important issues is NOT the issue -- or, at least not of any significant relevance.

What is important is Bush's alleged "chess-player-like strategic political brilliance." (Somehow, I take it that you are less than dazzled by his latest "moves?" So am I.)

As for me: I wish Bush took the Henry Clay line on these and other issues of dire importance: "I'd rather be right than President."

[E. Pluribus Unum]

To bad we didn't back in '64 & '68 when we could see this mess coming, ignored it, and elected tricky Dick instead.

It's wierd how you don't know the proper usage of "too."

[BenR2]

Has someone amended the Constitution!!! How dare they!!! When did this happen?!?!? Thank God you told me. What are the details? Do you have a link? Or just diarrhea of the mouth?

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Why are you engaging in ad hominem attack on this poster. His point is valid enough to me. Since when is "playing games with" synonymous with "amending?" Signing -- or promising to sign -- bills that are clearly subversive to Constitutional principles is, in my view, better characterized as "playing games with" the Constitution than "amending" the Constitution.

Please try to use an ounce of moral logic.

[tpaine]

You are mirroring that 'anal' bit my boyo.

But toeing the constitutional line is the presidents job.

[CWOJackson]

"...guess if DeLay is correct the 'I won't vote for him ever again' crowd will have to move onto another topic..."

They never run out of reasons, even if they have to invent some.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

But toeing the constitutional line is the presidents job.

What has Bush done that is Unconstitutional?

[BenR2]

It's wierd how you don't know the proper usage of "too."

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People who live in glass houses are wise to think twice before throwing stones at their neighbors.

According to my spell-checker, there is no word spelled "w-i-e-r-d." There are words spelled "wired" and "wierd," however.

[Fraulein]

What is important is Bush's alleged "chess-player-like strategic political brilliance."

Such folk do not care if Bush violates his oath of office as long as they think that the end justifies the political means. They forget that upholding the constitution should be an end-in-itself. That end should trump all the others.

[BenR2]

What has Bush done that is Unconstitutional?

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He has signed the CFR bill. He has promised to sign the AWB extension. That's just off the top of my head. This is not an exhaustive list.

[tpaine]

No politician should be playing games with our constitution.
-tpaine-



Has someone amended the Constitution!!! How dare they!!! When did this happen?!?!? Thank God you told me. What are the details? Do you have a link? Or just diarrhea of the mouth?
-pu-



Ever hear of the oath of office? -- To protect and defend the Constitution?

Diarrhea? You bet. You got it kid, a mouth full.

[CWOJackson]

"According to my spell-checker, there is no word spelled "w-i-e-r-d." There are words spelled "wired" and "wierd," however."

What's the difference between (cut and paste here):

w-i-e-r-d

and:

wierd

?

[BenR2]

Such folk do not care if Bush violates his oath of office as long as they think that the end justifies the political means. They forget that upholding the constitution should be an end-in-itself. That end should trump all the others.

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Well said!

[BenR2]

What's the difference between (cut and paste here):

w-i-e-r-d

and:

wierd

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LOL. Good catch. (Thank you!)

Only in my imagination, I guess.

Let's try that again: There are words spelled: "w-e-i-r-d" and "w-i-r-e-d" (but not "w-i-e-r-d").

[CWOJackson]

You're welcomed.

When I read your post I thought the spelling was a little wier....strange.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You didn't tell me what Bush did that was Unconstitutional. I am dying to hear what somebody who is evidently totally ignorant of the legislative process defined by the Constitution has to say about what is Unconstitutional for a President to do.

[BenR2]

What has Bush done that is Unconstitutional?

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I'm looking at your tag line. Apparently you have some problems with the War on Drugs (as do I)? Bush also supports this anti-Constitutional monstrosity, as well.

[BenR2]

When I read your post I thought the spelling was a little wier....strange.
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ROFLOL!

[E. Pluribus Unum]

He has signed the CFR bill.

GONG!!!!

It's not Unconstitutional for a President to sign a bill sent to him by Congress.

Thanks for playing.

[Fraulein]

What has Bush done that is Unconstitutional?

For example, Bush signed CFR knowing full well that it was unconstitutional. That is a blatant violation of his oath of office. However, many around here say, "But it was part of a brilliant strategy!" Not too bright, though, given that the NRA (among others) subsequently has had to fight in court this legislation signed by Bush. He also said that he would sign the AWB if it ever crossed his desk.