To: Polycarp
"This chickenhawking is an integral part of the homosexual subculture, and tacitly and explicitly accepted by the entire movement. Thus the call for lowering the age of consent for homosexual sex across the board by the homo movement." I believe 100% homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible, but the above claims are nonsense.
The gay rights organizations almost across the board oppose and condemn groups like NAMBLA that condone sex with minors and advocate lowering the age of consent.
NAMBLA is prohibited from taking part in so-called "gay pride parades"(which allow almost any kind of gross behavior) and almost nobody in the gay rights movement will have anything to do with such groups.
Though statistics show there are more heterosexual pedophiles, this is because heterosexuals make up most of the population. So I wouldn't be surprised if there was a higher percetage of pedophiles among homosexuals...but the idea that "chickenhawking" is a prominent part of the general homosexual population is a ridiculous claim.
66 posted on
05/01/2003 5:11:03 PM PDT by
Jorge
To: Jorge
The gay rights organizations almost across the board oppose and condemn groups like NAMBLA that condone sex with minors and advocate lowering the age of consent.....gee, I never heard or saw any proof that the gay rights oppose and condemn NAMBLA. Where did you see/hear this?
....could you post some articles or web-sites for us?
70 posted on
05/01/2003 5:18:47 PM PDT by
GrandMoM
("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
To: Jorge
...but the idea that "chickenhawking" is a prominent part of the general homosexual population is a ridiculous claim.Do a little more research. Even mainstream homosexual advocates admit it.
- Gay advocates correctly state that most child molesters are heterosexual males. But this is a misleading statement. In proportion to their numbers (about 1 out of 36 men), homosexual males are more likely to engage in sex with minors: in fact, they appear to be three times more likely than straight men to engage in adult-child sexual relations Freund, K. and R. I. Watson, The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homo sexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443.
- While no more than 2% of male adults are homosexual, some studies indicate that approximately 35% of pedophiles are homosexual. K. Freund et al., Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (Fall 1984): 197.
- Homosexual pedophiles victimize far more children than do heterosexual pedophiles Freund, K. and R. I. Watson, The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443.
- It is estimated that approximately 80% of pedophilic victims are boys who have been molested by adult males Schmidt, Thomas (1995). Straight and Narrow? Compassion and Clarity in the Homosexuality Debate. Downers Grove, Ill.: Intervarsity Press, p. 114.
- Kurt Freund, et al., "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy 10 (1984): 197. "The proportional prevalence of offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent." See also, Kurt Freund, et al., "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference," "Approximately one-third of these individuals had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls. This finding is consistent with the proportions reported in two earlier studies," p. 107.
71 posted on
05/01/2003 5:22:47 PM PDT by
Polycarp
("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
To: Jorge
The gay rights organizations almost across the board oppose and condemn groups like NAMBLA that condone sex with minors and advocate lowering the age of consent.In the early 70's - I think 72 - when homo activists had one of their initial meetings to figure out their agenda, they wanted to abolish the age of consent. But it looked bad later, so they changed it to just lowering the age of consent. They want to lower it gradually.
NAMBLA is prohibited from taking part in so-called "gay pride parades"(which allow almost any kind of gross behavior) and almost nobody in the gay rights movement will have anything to do with such groups.
This is solely for PR and I don't even accept that it is true. My husband lived in SF for years and ran into a couple of "Gay Pride" parades - and saw men barely dressed in leather carrying little boys with chains around their necks and pulling them by leashes, some had NAMBLA signs. NAMBLA has kind of gone underground from what I understand but it is commonly known that homosexuals are often attracted to sex with young people down to pre-adolescents. Evidence? Homosexuals going in large numbers to countries where there are many child prostitues - like the Philippines. Thailand, etc. Remember a movie a few years ago called something like "Soldier's Story"? I lived in SF at the time. It was promoted as a LOVE STORY between a man in his 20's and a 12 year old boy. There's tons of more evidence but this is a tiny start.
Though statistics show there are more heterosexual pedophiles, this is because heterosexuals make up most of the population. So I wouldn't be surprised if there was a higher percetage of pedophiles among homosexuals...but the idea that "chickenhawking" is a prominent part of the general homosexual population is a ridiculous claim.
You admit that there "may be" more pedophile homos than heteros because there is so much hard evidence that this is so. The numbers I've seen are something like 35- 45% of molestations are men on boys and homosexuals are around 2% of the popluation so figure it out. Then to say that chickenhawking isn't prominent?
To: Jorge
A review of the top 60 Gay flix list will show 11 with adolescense boys as their topic, 10 school-boys, 6 Intergenerational love, 4 man-boy love seems like a trend to me. NAMBLA couldn't be prouder. This info comes from the "Outinindy.com website.
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