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To: sinatorhellary; God is good
Acts 10:43-48
 43.  All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name." 
 (Are they 'saved' yet?)
44.  While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.
(Are they 'saved' yet?)
 45.  The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles.
(Are they 'saved' yet?)
 46.  For they heard them speaking in tongues  and praising God.   Then Peter said,
 47.  "Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have." 
 (Are they 'saved' yet?)
48.  So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.
(Are they 'saved' yet?)

 
Now then, answer this question:
"Just WHEN were these folks SAVED in this passage of Scripture?
A
B
C
D
E

138 posted on 12/31/2003 3:31:04 PM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: Elsie
Your #138: Now then, answer this question: "Just WHEN were these folks SAVED in this passage of Scripture? A B C D E

Some people seem to have to pin down when a person is "saved". This is judging another man's heart. Only God can do that. Plus, it is all out the window if the guy messes up, then you guys say, "He never was saved in the first place." So give it up already. Leave it in the hands of God. The final chapters of our lives have not yet been written. Those chapters will be part of the final judgment on Judgment Day. God foreknows all this, but does not share it with you guys.

It is for us to study the Scriptures and apply them in our lives, living the light we have as best we know how, and God will give us more and more light until the perfect day. Let us focus on learning obedience to God, and leave the judgment of our wise, merciful, just, and all-knowing God in His hands.

142 posted on 12/31/2003 7:10:27 PM PST by White Mountain (By their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: Elsie
Even though Acts 10 doesn't specifically state the point at which Cornelius' sins were washed away, because

Jesus said, "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved,"

Paul said, "We are buried with Christ in baptism"

then Cornelius must have been saved at the point of baptism.

Ah, but the Holy Spirit came on them before baptism. Note that while recounting this event to the church, Peter says, "And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning." (Acts 11:15)

What happened to Cornelius was the same thing that happened to the apostles in Acts 2 (the beginning) - the miraculous ability to speak in foreign languages by the power of the Holy Spirit.

The miraculous ability to speak in an unfamiliar language is no more proof of Cornelius' salvation than it is proof of Balaam's donkey's salvation. He did it, too, you know.

This event was a God-given sign that gentiles could enter into the body of Christ. And how does Paul say one enters the body of Christ? "We were all baptized into one body!" (1Cor 12:13)

151 posted on 01/01/2004 1:14:29 AM PST by sinatorhellary
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To: Elsie
Again, excellent point. How can they be saved before they believe if they are asked to believe to be saved? Excellent.
Some have strayed from the simple truth of the gospel. In these last days, many false teachers have come.

God bless you to the heavens.
216 posted on 01/05/2004 9:19:21 PM PST by God is good (Till we meet in the golden city of the New Jerusalem, peace to my brothers and sisters.)
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