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HIV-Positive Teacher Charged With Having Sex With Student (sexual assault and child endangerment)
Local6/AP ^ | 4/7/03 | ap

Posted on 04/07/2003 9:26:14 AM PDT by Jael

HIV-Positive Teacher Charged With Having Sex With Student Posted: 11:50 a.m. EDT April 7, 2003

PATERSON, N.J. --
An HIV-positive teacher from a Roman Catholic elementary school is accused of sexually assaulting a former student over a two-month period, prosecutors said.

Raymond J. Welsh, 33, of Fair Lawn, was charged with sexual assault by a diseased person, aggravated sexual assault, sexual assault and child endangerment. He was released Friday on $200,000 bail.

Joseph Del Russo, chief assistant prosecutor for Passaic County, said state law requires anyone infected with HIV to notify sexual partners.

[since the child was in about the 6th grade when all this started, I hardly see how this homosexual was "having sex." Why can't these people call this what it is? Rape.]

Welsh has taught religion, music, computers and gym at St. Therese School in Paterson since the late 1990s.


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To: Havoc
I think the problem is not that this is being reported but reported as a "relation" instead of a "rape".
21 posted on 04/07/2003 9:42:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray & fast for our troops this lent)
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To: biblewonk

22 posted on 04/07/2003 9:43:47 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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To: biblewonk
We can do without that kind of comment.



24 posted on 04/07/2003 9:44:07 AM PDT by Barnacle (A human shield against the onslaught of Liberal tripe.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
the homsexually pc correct way the media phrases the situation is to say it was not a homosexual it was a pedophile. (who was problaly a heterosexual) They ignore the act of violation is homosexual conduct.
25 posted on 04/07/2003 9:46:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
The try to distinguish pedophiles from homosexuals.

I know, it’s laughable. They think pedophilia is it’s own “orientation” as opposed to an additional associated pathology over and above their own. Denial is one of the symptoms.

26 posted on 04/07/2003 9:47:37 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
What Homosexuals Say About Homosexuals - Is This Gay Behavior Sick?

"They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children..."


27 posted on 04/07/2003 9:48:18 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: Barnacle
Some people can't do without that kind of comment. Their minds are sewers, and they spew filth every time they touch their keyboards. Their pseudo-pious comments reveal more about their own lack of character than they do about the people or situations they're commenting on. When these people claim to be Christians, or even appropriate Christian terms into their screen names, they bring disgrace upon the Body of Christ.

Pray for them.

Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

28 posted on 04/07/2003 9:48:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Criminal Bastard #110427)
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To: EdReform; LarryLied
Glad to see you are here.

Ping to LarryLied.
29 posted on 04/07/2003 9:50:22 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"I know, it’s laughable. They think pedophilia is it’s own “orientation” as opposed to an additional associated pathology over and above their own. Denial is one of the symptoms."

What's laughable is the reaching that the far-right makes on this point. If their logic is correct, then all heterosexual people are pedophiles because *some* heterosexuals molest children.

Homosexuals that molest children should be sent to jail. Heterosexuals that molest children should also be sent to jail.

Generalizations and stereotypes are not the American way. There are many homosexuals and heterosexuals (and bisexuals) that do not have sex with children.

Trace
30 posted on 04/07/2003 9:51:06 AM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: longtermmemmory
who was probably a heterosexual

The pathology is same-sex attraction. So-called “heterosexual” pedophiles that do little boys are homosexual: there is no such thing as a “bisexual” because there are no part time pathologies.

31 posted on 04/07/2003 9:53:35 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Jael
If he is found guilty, send him away for the maximum term.
32 posted on 04/07/2003 9:53:57 AM PDT by Calamari
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To: Trace21230; Clint N. Suhks
"Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered - The taboo against sex with children continues to erode

"...For elsewhere in the public square, the defense of adult-child sex—more accurately, man-boy sex—is now out in the open. Moreover, it is on parade in a number of places—therapeutic, literary, and academic circles; mainstream publishing houses and journals and magazines and bookstores—where the mere appearance of such ideas would until recently have been not only unthinkable, but in many cases, subject to prosecution...

...Plainly, as the record even then showed, a surprising number of voices were willing to rise up on behalf of what advocates refer to as "man-boy love," or what most people call sexual abuse..."

For one thing, no sustained public challenges have arisen over other primal taboos. Even more telling, if nihilism and nihilism alone were the explanation for public attempts to legitimize sex with boy children, then we would expect the appearance of related attempts to legitimize sex with girl children; and these we manifestly do not see. Nobody, but nobody, has been allowed to make the case for girl pedophilia with the backing of any reputable institution. Publishing houses are not putting out acclaimed anthologies and works of fiction that include excerpts of men having sex with young girls. Psychologists and psychiatrists are not competing with each other to publish studies demonstrating that the sexual abuse of girls is inconsequential; or, indeed, that it ought not even be defined as "abuse."

Two examples from the last few weeks will suffice to show the double standard here. In the November 12 New York Times Book Review, a writer found it unremarkable to observe of his subject, biographer Gavin Lambert, that when "Lambert was a schoolboy of 11, a teacher initiated him [into homosexuality], and he 'felt no shame or fear, only gratitude.'" It is unimaginable that New York Times editors would allow a reviewer to describe an 11-year-old girl being sexually "initiated" by any adult (in that case, "initiation" would be called "sexual abuse"). Similarly, in mid-December the New York Times Magazine delivered a cover piece about gay teenagers in cyberspace which was so blasé about the older men who seek out boys in chat rooms that it dismissed those potential predators as mere "oldies." Again, one can only imagine the public outcry had the same magazine published a story taking the same so-what approach to online solicitation, off-line trysts, and pornography "sharing" between anonymous men and underage girls.

No: As was true four years ago, contemporary efforts to rationalize, legitimize, and justify pedophilia are about boys. Forget about abstractions like nihilism; what the record shows is something more prosaic. The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this "question," settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement...

"...For shocking though it may have been to the general public, "Meta-Analytic" was in fact only the latest in a very long series of professional attempts to revise therapeutic conceptions of boy pedophilia, attempts of which most lay readers remain quite ignorant.

Professionals in the field know better. Fifteen years ago, for example, in his careful research volume Child Sexual Abuse, noted authority David Finkelhor was already drawing attention to the "body of opinion and research [that] has emerged in recent years which is trying hard to vindicate homosexual pedophilia."

One book only recently available in the "gay studies" section of a Borders in downtown D.C., for example, is a peculiar classic of a sort entitled Male Inter-Generational Intimacy: Historical, Socio-Psychological, and Legal Perspectives, edited by the aforementioned pedophile icon Edward Brongersma and two colleagues. This book, according to one of its jacket endorsements, "shed[s] critical light on the broad spectrum of man-boy love and its place in ancient and contemporary societies." In other words, it is a series of briefs using scientistic polemics in an effort to rationalize the sexual molestation of boy children.

...What gives XY its unprecedented niche is that here, for the first time, is a mass-market magazine "officially targeted toward 12-29 year old young gay men," every issue of which, as one admiring journalist puts it, "features scantily clad young men in several photo spreads and on the cover." Then there is the non-photo content. The first issue was stamped "Underage." Another issue included a sympathetic pro-and-con interview with a prominent member of NAMBLA. An article in another issue was titled "F— the Age of Consent." There is also a smattering of self-help that can only make minors easier to find—for example, advice about what kids should do if their parents install a filtering system that prevents them from reaching gay cyberspace (answer: get around it).

...A few proclaim boys to be sexual fair game. Influential others disavow pedophilia per se, but tolerate its advocacy on grounds of political solidarity with persecuted groups. Still others, in the relatively new development noted earlier, appear to have opted for a kind of anti-anti-pedophilia, according to which the "real" problems for the movement are somehow Dr. Laura and the religious right, rather than the facts to which such critics draw attention: e.g., that efforts are being made to destigmatize the sexual exploitation of boy children; or that positive portrayals of "inter-generational sex," which are extremely rare in the rest of the culture, are not rare in gay literature and journalism..."


33 posted on 04/07/2003 9:57:37 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: Trace21230
If their logic is correct, then all heterosexual people are pedophiles because *some* heterosexuals molest children….Generalizations and stereotypes are not the American way. There are many homosexuals and heterosexuals (and bisexuals) that do not have sex with children.

Irrelevent and wrong, try reading before you jump on the pro-sodomy band wagon.

34 posted on 04/07/2003 9:59:21 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: ArrogantBustard
I am tired of backward ass bigoted ignorami like biblewonk spitting on my church. And I’m tired of sick perverts infiltrating and taking refuge in my church. The day will come that both will be set straight.
35 posted on 04/07/2003 10:01:37 AM PDT by Barnacle (A human shield against the onslaught of Liberal tripe.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"There are many homosexuals and heterosexuals (and bisexuals) that do not have sex with children."

So what part of this post, exactly, is "irrelevant and wrong"?

Are you contending that every human being has sex with children?

Trace
36 posted on 04/07/2003 10:01:57 AM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Actually, Trace is right and you know it. Why don't you bother to cite where you've stolen that data from? We both know you didn't come up with it on your own.
37 posted on 04/07/2003 10:03:09 AM PDT by JoshGray
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To: EdReform
"body of opinion and research [that] has emerged in recent years which is trying hard to vindicate homosexual pedophilia."

Exactly! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, the pink elephant in the room, the…that’s all I got.

38 posted on 04/07/2003 10:03:31 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Trace21230; Clint N. Suhks
Also see Reply 167 in the thread The Great "Gay" Racket
39 posted on 04/07/2003 10:04:26 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: JoshGray
Why don't you bother to cite where you've stolen that data from?

Wherever it came from doesn’t make the DATA wrong does it Josh?

40 posted on 04/07/2003 10:06:58 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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