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EVOLUTIONARY ARROGANCE (SHAMAN ALERT)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | February 2003 | Henry M. Morris, Ph.D.

Posted on 03/13/2003 9:21:15 AM PST by Remedy

And Job answered and said, No doubt but ye are the people, and wisdom shall die with you"
(Job 12:1-2).

There seems to be something about evolutionism that generates arrogance in many of its spokesmen. The concept is so wide-ranging that it purportedly can explain everything scientifically, from the origin of the cosmos to the origin of religion. Perhaps because it seems to eliminate the need for God, science itself becomes "god," and some evolutionists think they have become its official prophets and priests. One of their communicants, in fact, calls them its "shamans." He says,

We show deference to our leaders, pay respect to our elders and follow the dictates of our shamans; this being the Age of Science, it is scien-tism's shamans who command our veneration. . . . scientists [are] the premier mythmakers of our time.1

One of these great shamans, arguably the premier living evolutionist, is Professor Ernst Mayr of Harvard. He tells us that evolution can even answer the great "why?" questions of life. Many people of normal intelligence, including most scientists, have acknowledged that science can deal with questions beginning with "What?" and "Where," and "How," but not "Why?" The latter requires a theological answer, or at least philosophical. But not Shaman Mayr. He says:

There is not a single Why? question in biology that can be answered adequately without a consideration of evolution.2

After all, says Shermer, "cosmology and evolutionary theory ask the ultimate origin questions that have traditionally been the province of religion and theology" and evolutionism is "courageously proffering naturalistic answers that supplant supernaturalistic ones and . . . is providing spiritual sustenance. . . ."3

The investment of these leaders of the evolutionary faith with such pontifical authority, however, tends to generate in them an attitude of profound impatience with such heresies as creationism. Instead of opposing the creationists with scientific proofs of macroevolution, they resort to name-calling and ridicule. A professor at a Missouri university fulminates at the "lunatic literalism of the creationists,"4 especially "the weirdness produced by leaders such as Henry M. Morris."5

And even such an articulate and highly revered evolutionist as the late Stephen Jay Gould, in a voluminous book of 1433 pages published just before his death, referred angrily to "the scourge of creationism."6 He had refused many invitations to debate a qualified creationist scientist with the self-serving and misleading explanation that it would be a mistake to dignify creationism and its scientists in this way.

Dr. Massimo Pigliucci, who has lost a number of debates with Dr. Gish and other creationists, laments the fact that, "many Americans are still enchanted with dinosaurs such as John Morris and Duane Gish of the oxymoronically named Institute for Creation Research."7

Although Dr. Gould would never debate a creationist scientist, despite the inducement of large financial incentives to do so, he was quick to criticize them in print, calling them "fundamentalists who call themselves `creation scientists,' with their usual mixture of cynicism and ignorance."8 Gould often resorted, in fact, to the standard debate technique of name-calling and ad hominem arguments commonly used when one has no factual evidence to support his position.

In his gigantic magnum opus, Dr. Gould provides a valuable historical review of the development of evolutionary theory, including the many conflicts among the evolutionists themselves, but in his1433 pages neglected to provide a single proof of macroevolution. The same was true of the esteemed Ernst Mayr who, in his own recent textbook9 could cite no such proof. Yet he had the gall to make the pronouncement that "every knowing person agrees that man is descended from the apes."10

We ignorant creationists, since we theoretically know nothing about the subject, thus, according to Gould, have "always relied, as a primary strategy, upon the misquotation of scientific sources."11 We not only are ignorant, but also by him are assumed to be liars. Strange that, in his 1433 pages, not to mention his copious other writings, Dr. Gould failed to site a single example of such misquotations.

Creationists are fallible human beings, of course, and it is possible that a few mistakes could be discovered among the thousands of quotes we have used from the evolutionists, but they would certainly be rare exceptions, as well as unintentional. They certainly could not obviate the tremendous case that has been built up against evolution just from admissions of evolutionists.

It would be easy if space permitted to multiply examples of the evolutionists' use of ridicule and insulting names in lieu of scientific evidence. But another type of evolutionary arrogance consists of their repeatedly professed amazement that anyone of intelligence could ever disagree with them.

One writer laments that even after the pope reaffirmed the commitment of the Catholic Church to evolution in 1996,

40 percent of American Catholics in a 2001 Gallup poll said they believed that God created human life in the past 10,000 years. Indeed, fully 45 percent of all Americans subscribe to this creationist view.12

Two eminent authors of an important article in the journal, Evolution, assume that this simply indicates "a lack of . . . understanding of evolution by the general public" and then suggests that the cause of this ignorance may be "the way the media communicates evolution and anti-evolution."13

Perhaps these authors were writing this with tongue-in-cheek! It would seem they must know that practically all the media strongly promote evolution and that the "general public" has been taught only evolution in public schools and secular colleges all their lives. Evidently all this brainwashing somehow has failed.

But why would the public favor creation? Only a statistical minority of the "general public" attends church and Sunday school. Could it possibly be that evolution is so contrary to evidence and common sense that people intuitively know that evolution is wrong? And could it be that many of these have studied the evidences for themselves and thereby found that evolution is not really scientific after all?

Higher education doesn't seem to help much. Alters and Nelson have made a fairly extensive survey of this kind of study.

Research results show that there may be surprisingly little difference in performance between majors and nonmajor introductory biology students. For example, in an ecology and evolutionary biology pretest of 1200 students, biology majors scored only 6% higher than non-majors. When the same students were posttested on the first day of the following semester, the researchers concluded "that majors, who received a much more rigorous treatment of the material, came through the semester with the same degree of understanding as the non-majors!"14

This strange intransigence on the part of science students when subjected to evolutionary teachings, they think, must be caused by religion!

The more deeply ingrained the religious teachings, the more the evidence was viewed through lenses different from those of students without contradictory religious beliefs.15

Well, that does make sense. If evolutionists can just persuade students to be atheists, it should be easier to make them become evolutionists!

There will always be a problem, however, in convincing students who believe that scientific generalizations should at least be based on scientific facts.

Even more difficult will it always be to convince students who believe that the Biblical account of creation is the true account as revealed by the Creator Himself.

In the absence of either a divine "evolution revelation" or real scientific proof of macroevolution, it is hard to understand this pervasive attitude of intellectual superiority (even over thousands of fully credentialed creationist scientists) as anything but evolutionary arrogance.

References

1. Michael Shermer, "The Shaman of Scientism," Scientific American (June 2002), p. 35.

2. Ernst Mayr, What Evolution Is (New York: Basic Books, 2001), p. xiii.

3. Michael Shermer, op cit., p. 35.

4. Taner Edis, "Darwin in Mind," Skeptical Inquirer (vol. 25, no. 2, March/April 2001), p. 36.

5. Ibid., p. 35.

6. Stephen Jay Gould, The Structure of Evolutionary Theory (Cambridge, Mass. Harvard University Press, 2002), p. 984.

7. Massimo Pigliucci, "Defending Evolution, as Strange as It May Seem," Evolution (vol. 56, no. 1, 2002), p. 206.

8. Stephen Jay Gould, op cit., p. 101, footnote.

9. Ernst Mayr, op cit.

10. Ernst Mayr, "Interview," Omni (March/April 1988), p. 46, emphasis supplied.

11. Gould, op cit., p. 986.

12. Roger Doyle, "Down with Evolution," Scientific American (vol. 286, March 2002), p. 30.

13. Brian J. Alters and Craig E. Nelson, "Perspective: Teaching Evolution in Higher Education," Evolution (vol. 56, October 2002), p. 1892. Dr. Alters was the lead author of Defending Evolution (Boston: Jones & Bartlett, 2001, 261 pp.), an anti-creationist book which was reviewed in the September 2001 issue of ICR's Acts & Facts. Dr. Nelson is a professor at the University of Indiana who has unsuccessfully debated for evolution several times.

14. Ibid.

15. Ibid., p. 1898.


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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; *crevo_list; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Piltdown_Woman; ...
Luddite ping.

[This ping list is for the evolution -- not creationism -- side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. To be added (or dropped), let me know via freepmail.]

21 posted on 03/13/2003 10:55:22 AM PST by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: Remedy
Criticising ideas in print is debate. I suppose you are referring to something like Crossfire, something designed to settle deep issues in a dignified forum.
22 posted on 03/13/2003 11:53:51 AM PST by js1138
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To: Illbay
ARE YOU A PROFESSIONAL LIAR?
23 posted on 03/13/2003 12:25:13 PM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Strange that, in his 1433 pages, not to mention his copious other writings, Dr. Gould failed to site a single example of such misquotations.

Well, gee! I wonder if anyone has looked into that claim?

24 posted on 03/13/2003 12:32:21 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Remedy
Dr. Gould failed to site a single example of such misquotations.

Then I shall reveal a couple in just the opening paragrahs of this essay.

One of their communicants, in fact, calls them its "shamans." He says, We show deference to our leaders, pay respect to our elders and follow the dictates of our shamans; this being the Age of Science, it is scien-tism's shamans who command our veneration. . . . scientists [are] the premier mythmakers of our time.1

He is citing Michel Shermer, head to the Skeptic society and holding him up as speaking for all of science.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?colID=13&articleID=000AA74F-FF5F-1CDB-B4A8809EC588EEDF

Dr. Shermer is a psychologist by training, and while I would say he does a lot to promote good science, he seems VERY idealistic. In the cited article, he talks mostly about Stephen Hawking, and explicitly compares him to God. This is a claim that I suspect Hawking himself would take issue with. His article, as implied by Morris, is trying to establish science as a religion in its own right. I, for one, do NOT think that this is an accurate representation of the position of most scientists. He even quotes Dr. Hawking as saying "I do not answer 'God' questions." then procedes to claim, as Morris suggests, that science can and does answer all the questions that religions purport to. I would say the Dr. Hawking's approach is far more representative of most scientists, and Shermer is out on a limb. As such, quoting him as speaking for the scientific community is a terrible misrepresentation of that community.

Many people of normal intelligence, including most scientists, have acknowledged that science can deal with questions beginning with "What?" and "Where," and "How," but not "Why?" The latter requires a theological answer, or at least philosophical. But not Shaman Mayr. He says: There is not a single Why? question in biology that can be answered adequately without a consideration of evolution.2

I, for one, would fully agree with the first statement, but Moriss's quotation of Mayr is a semantic juggling act. Mayr is explicitly referring to questions in biology. Questions about why fetuses develop in the way they do, or why the human is so similar to that of apes. Morris is trying to say that he was talking about philosophical questions such as why are we here? Why do we suffer? This is a gross and obvious mischaracterization of what Mayr was trying to say, but it sounds good out of context and if you don't think too much about it, so Morris whips it right out there. He subsequently backs it up with our old friend Shermer, who again is talking about something completely different from Mayr.

The rest of the essay is an exercise in the same sort of flat declarations (no proof!) that we've heard a million times. He's basically whining about how noone in the scientific community takes him seriously without providing a shread of contradictory evidence himself.

This sort of irresponsible writing really irks me. If someone does not want to believe in evolution because their faith in God doesn't allow it, then fine. I can acutally respect that quite a bit. But I wish Morris and his ilk would quit trying to twist science around to suit their needs! He is guilty of precisely the same misquoting practices that he dismisses in the same essay!

Faith in God I can deeply respect even if I disagree. Intellectual hypocrisy just pisses me off!

25 posted on 03/13/2003 12:41:38 PM PST by gomaaa
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To: ThinkPlease
scientists [are] the premier mythmakers of our time.1
26 posted on 03/13/2003 12:51:01 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Illbay
You already had the earlier thread pulled. Do you not work for a living? Are you on government assistance?

Thank you for that valuable contribution. I will ponder the problem. It seems to me either a problem of perception or a problem of the will. On one hand, we noticed you woke up on the wrong side of the bed and were name-calling early in the morning (do you not work for a living?). On the other hand you may not completely understand that you are crabby. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

27 posted on 03/13/2003 12:56:32 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Ff--150
Evolution: The universe created itself, than after billions & billions of years, and septillions upon septillions of little "random" events occurred, somehow something became a living cell - life from non-life, which then somehow magically reproduced itself, and from it begat every other living creature.

Creation: God spoke. It happened. Which is more believable?

28 posted on 03/13/2003 7:02:34 PM PST by 4CJ ('No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.' - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Evolution: The universe created itself, than after billions & billions of years, and septillions upon septillions of little "random" events occurred, somehow something became a living cell - life from non-life, which then somehow magically reproduced itself, and from it begat every other living creature.

Your definition of evolution is a completely false strawman, as evolution has nothing to do with the origin of the universe, nor the ultimate origins of life. As such, your post is meaningless.
29 posted on 03/13/2003 9:29:10 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dataman; gore3000
... wow ...

g3 ...

Evolution has not led to any scientific achievements because evolution, as I have said many times is ANTI-SCIENCE.

The central point of science is the discovery of causes and effects and materialist evolution denies it.

It proposes random events as the engine of the transformation of species.

This is totally unscientific,

it is an attack on science

which in order to expand human knowledge and human health and living standards

needs to find the causes and effects of how our Universe functions.

Randomness answers nothing and leads to no discoveries.

In fact it opposes scientific inquiry and is a philosophical know-nothingism.

That is why evolution has been popular with the masses and virtually ignored by scientists.

It is pseudo-science for morons.

With a few words such as 'survival of the fittest' and 'natural selection' it seeks to make idiots think they are knowledgeable

'evolution just happens'. Such is not science.


fC ...

Alien abductions ...

nothing you can say ---

some kind of mental epilepsy --- evolution !

Main Entry: ep·i·lep·sy
Pronunciation: 'e-p&-"lep-sE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -sies
Etymology: Middle French epilepsie, from Late Latin epilepsia, from Greek epilEpsia, from epilambanein to seize, from epi- + lambanein to take, seize -- more at LATCH
Date: 1543
: any of various disorders marked by disturbed electrical rhythms of the central nervous system and typically manifested by convulsive attacks usually with clouding of consciousness
30 posted on 03/13/2003 11:52:59 PM PST by f.Christian (( + God =Truth + love courage // LIBERTY logic + SANITY + Awakening + ))
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To: John H K
From the article:

Instead of opposing the creationists with scientific proofs of macroevolution, they resort to name-calling and ridicule.

31 posted on 03/14/2003 12:21:29 AM PST by Dataman
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To: ThinkPlease
From the article:

But another type of evolutionary arrogance consists of their repeatedly professed amazement that anyone of intelligence could ever disagree with them.

32 posted on 03/14/2003 12:25:10 AM PST by Dataman
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To: balrog666
From the article:

that the "general public" has been taught only evolution in public schools and secular colleges all their lives. Evidently all this brainwashing somehow has failed.

33 posted on 03/14/2003 12:27:23 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Dimensio; Jael
<< Of course if the author was speaking of "creation science", then that is an oxymoron ... >>

He's not as literal on Genesis as we'd like, but he is a Christian and a creationist, and he blows away the argument that non-evolutionists are handicapped in science.




http://www.counterbalance.com/bio/coll-body.html

Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., is a physician-geneticist and the Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute, NIH. In that role he oversees a fifteen year project aimed at mapping and sequencing all of the human DNA by the year 2005. Many consider this the most important scientific undertaking of our time. The project is currently running ahead of schedule and under budget.




X: Of course it was ahead of schedule and under budget - Dr. Collins is a *creationist*. He was not handicapped by evolutionary assumptions.

http://www.scienceshorts.com/FrancisCollins.html

<< Of special interest is Dr. Collins’ strong Christian commitment. Although growing up in a church-going family, Dr. Collins was quite boldly atheistic while a young adult. Personal reflection on issues of faith, significantly aided by the writings of C. S. Lewis, brought him to the point of conviction of the truthfulness of Christian truth claims. He states that his Christian commitment is "the most important organizing principle in my life" (www.pbs.org/faithandreason/transcript/coll-body.html). >>





More from http://www.counterbalance.com/bio/coll-body.html

After a residency and chief residency in internal medicine in Chapel Hill, he returned to Yale for a fellowship in human genetics, where he worked on methods of crossing large stretches of DNA to identify disease genes. He continued to develop these ideas after joining the faculty at the University of Michigan in 1984. This approach, for which he later coined the term positional cloning, has developed into a powerful component of modern molecular genetics, as it allows the identification of disease genes for almost any condition, without knowing ahead of time what the functional abnormality might be.

Together with Lap-Chee Tsui and Jack Riordan of the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto, Canada, his research team identified the gene for cystic fibrosis using this strategy in 1989. That was followed by his group's identification of the neurofibromatosis gene in 1990, and a successful collaborative effort to identify the gene for Huntington disease in 1993.




X: How could he ever have accomplished all this? Doesn't he know that evolution is the unifying factor of all sciences? Isn't he aware that genetic disease resistance proves evolution and nothing can be accomplished in genetics without an evolutionary paradigm?




http://www.pbs.org/faithandreason/transcript/coll-body.html

QUESTION: What is your own faith and religious background?

MR. COLLINS: I was not raised in a particularly religious household. I went to church, but it was mostly to learn music, which was a good place to learn music. But I didn't learn a whole lot about theology. And for quite a while, in my early 20s, I was a pretty obnoxious atheist. Then at the age of 27, after a good deal of intellectual debating with myself about the plausibility of faith, and particularly with strong influence from C.S. Lewis, I became convinced that this was a decision I wanted to make. And I became, by choice, a Christian, a serious Christian, who believes that faith is not something that you just do on Sunday, but that if it makes any sense at all, it's part of your whole life. It's the most important organizing principle in my life.

QUESTION: As a scientist, have you ever found that your faith has conflicted with your scientific work?

MR. COLLINS: I actually do not believe that there are any collisions between what I believe as a Christian, and what I know and have learned about as a scientist. I think there's a broad perception that that's the case, and that’s what scares many scientists away from a serious consideration of faith. But, unless one chooses to make an absolutely literal interpretation of the book of Genesis and the story of creation -- which I believe is not a choice that people made even before science came along in the last century to cast some doubt upon the timing of the creation events -- other than that I am not aware of any reasons why one cannot be a completely dedicated person of faith who believes that God inspired the writings in the Bible, and also be a rigorous, intellectually completely honest scientist, who does not accept things about the natural world until they're proven. ... For me, as a person of faith, that moment of discovery has an additional dimension. It's appreciating something, realizing something, knowing something that up until then no human had known - but God knew it. And there is an intricacy and an elegance in the nature of biology, particularly when it comes to the information carrying capacity of DNA, which is rather awesome. And so, in a way, perhaps, those moments of discovery also become moments of worship, moments of appreciation, of the incredible intricacies and beauty of biology, of the world, of life. And, therefore, an appreciation of God as the creator.

QUESTION: Richard Dawkins has raised the question that if God created the universe, then how come he seems to have disappeared from the universe?

MR. COLLINS: I'm sorry that God has disappeared for Richard Dawkins. He's not disappeared for me. I think you can make an argument that if God made himself so obvious, so known, so easily interpretable in daily events, then the whole concept of faith and of making a personal decision about where you stand would be pretty meaningless.
34 posted on 03/14/2003 4:25:51 AM PST by Con X-Poser
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To: Con X-Poser
Great post, thank you for pinging me.
35 posted on 03/14/2003 6:36:54 AM PST by Jael
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To: Con X-Poser
Here's a quote from another interview with this same guy. I kinda like him. He seems to find a very nice balance between his faith and scientific evidence. I don't know what made you think he was a creationist or had anything against evolution. I may disagree with him on the God-motivated evolution thing, but it doesn't blatantly contradict any current evidence and if it allows him to reconcile faith and evolution, fine.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/transcripts/collins.html

ABERNETHY: What do you say to your fellow Christians who say, "Evolution is just a theory, and I can't put that together with my idea of a creator God"?

COLLINS: Well, evolution is a theory. It's a very compelling one. As somebody who studies DNA, the fact that we are 98.4 percent identical at the DNA level to a chimpanzee, it's pretty hard to ignore the fact that when I am studying a particular gene, I can go to the mouse and find it's the similar gene, and it's 90 percent the same. It's certainly compatible with the theory of evolution, although it will always be a theory that we cannot actually prove. I'm a theistic evolutionist. I take the view that God, in His wisdom, used evolution as His creative scheme. I don't see why that's such a bad idea. That's pretty amazingly creative on His part. And what is wrong with that as a way of putting together in a synthetic way the view of God who is interested in creating a group of individuals that He can have fellowship with -- us? Why is evolution not an appropriate way to get to that goal? I don't see a problem with that. The only problems that get put forward are by those who would interpret Genesis 1 in a very literal way. And that interpretation in many ways is a -- is a modern one. Saint Augustine in 400 AD, without any reasons to try to be an apologist to Charles Darwin, agreed that that was not a particularly appropriate way to interpret the words that are written in that first chapter of the Bible.

36 posted on 03/14/2003 7:44:21 AM PST by gomaaa
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Yeah, my great grand-dad, the sandstone rock...

Yet, my brain--MY BRAIN--not one with reasonable intelligencia, my brain is more complex than the rest of the universe...how much more complex is yours 8-)???

37 posted on 03/14/2003 9:02:30 AM PST by Ff--150 (Oh LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity!)
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To: gomaaa
Gomaaa, you killed the thread! You b#&($*d! /End South-Park-Mode
38 posted on 03/14/2003 11:00:33 AM PST by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: balrog666
It wasn't me!

It's just that Henry Morris is no Isaac Asimov.
39 posted on 03/14/2003 11:07:33 AM PST by gomaaa
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To: Remedy
Scientific Evolutionists and superstitious witch doctors. Strange bedfellows.
40 posted on 03/14/2003 12:53:43 PM PST by Commander8
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