[VadeRetro]

I take that as "evolution is a theory". Now either dig up Steve Gould and argue with him or argue with Talk-origins.

Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data.

Note that your very link preemptively dismisses using "Evolution is a fact" and "Evolution is a theory" to prove "theory = fact."

Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data.

"Preemptively," except that it didn't stop you. A theory may be named after a fact.

[VadeRetro]

Concatenating two speakers as unlike as Stephen Jay Gould and AndrewC into what looks like one quote is the textbook example of a copy error mutation. Meant to delete the first occurrence of SJG's text.

[AndrewC]

Note that your very link preemptively dismisses using "Evolution is a fact" and "Evolution is a theory" to prove "theory = fact."

So what? I was not trying to prove theory=fact. I was showing mr. b as wrong. He gave a partial answer. He was wrong. Darwininians use these distinctions for wiggle room. What is the fact of evolution.(in a meaningful way, not in the sense of a change which is undoubtedly the use you will offer)

[gore3000]

Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact.

Where is the evidence Vade? Where is it? A few bones carefully selected from hundreds of millions of bones and carefully arranged to tell the story you wish are not evidence of species transforming themselves into totally new more complex species.