[betty boop]

That was not meant to show any disrespect.

I know that, Alamo-Girl. I know why you put it where you did: Philosophy is just not an experimental science! So in a ranking of the disciplines of "science," it would definitely have to take last place. Still it did give us epistemology, a non-experimental science; and, arguably, so are math and geometry non-experimental.... So the "first" and the "last" somehow have a kind of "given" quality, beyond experiment....

...which may have something to do with the "designed" quality of the universe. Thanks so much for much for writing, A-G. Hugs!

[Alamo-Girl]

Again, another great observation:

So the "first" and the "last" somehow have a kind of "given" quality, beyond experiment

So true, so very true. Without either, the disciplines in between would be meaningless. From your remark, I conclude the "first" and the "last" form the boundary for the utility of thought.

Thank you!!!

[unspun]

Still it did give us epistemology, a non-experimental science; and, arguably, so are math and geometry non-experimental.... So the "first" and the "last" somehow have a kind of "given" quality, beyond experiment....

Sort of like reason and rhyme.

BTW, how did this thread get strewn across ancient Egypt? That's even farther than Robin Hood's barn.

PH: it was enough to ping you a couple times in the last few hours. It causes so much congnitive dissonance to type the letters "PatrickHenry" for you, my FRiend. ;-) I have to rest, now.

[balrog666]

Joke bump for later.