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Still it did give us epistemology, a non-experimental science; and, arguably, so are math and geometry non-experimental.... So the "first" and the "last" somehow have a kind of "given" quality, beyond experiment....

Sort of like reason and rhyme.

BTW, how did this thread get strewn across ancient Egypt? That's even farther than Robin Hood's barn.

PH: it was enough to ping you a couple times in the last few hours. It causes so much congnitive dissonance to type the letters "PatrickHenry" for you, my FRiend. ;-) I have to rest, now.

[betty boop]

BTW, how did this thread get strewn across ancient Egypt? That's even farther than Robin Hood's barn.

In my experience, one never knows where conversations are going to go, in these precincts. To me, that's part of the beauty of this forum, here at FR. People just bring their problems to the table. I would say without hesitation, this is a good thing. If you were to ask me.