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To: Catspaw
Ron Paul only became a Republican to get elected something that seems missed by his followers on here! If he were truly a patriot, he wouldn't hide behind becoming a Republican to get elected -- he would run as a Liberertarian!
14 posted on 02/14/2003 12:31:40 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: PhiKapMom
Ron Paul only became a Republican to get elected something that seems missed by his followers on here! If he were truly a patriot, he wouldn't hide behind becoming a Republican to get elected -- he would run as a Liberertarian!

So you're saying that Republicans can't be libertarians? Well, you certainly don't want liberal Republicans, do you? I guess that leaves only the neo-cons in the party.

17 posted on 02/14/2003 12:35:14 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: PhiKapMom
By the same logic, George W. Bush, who by his own admission does not agree with the 100% Pro-life stance of the Republican Party Platform; and who by his calls for ever bigger unconstitutional spending programs like AIDS for Africa and mentors for prisoner's children, shows his true colors, is a hypocrite too.

I submit that Ron Paul is the real Republican -- his beliefs (and more importantly, his actions) more closely align with the pro life, limited constitutional government that the Republican Party espouses.

Duhbya on the other hand, is just another big-goverment neocon RINO. If the Republicans no longer believe in what their platform espouses - they should be honest about it and change it.
32 posted on 02/14/2003 12:48:26 PM PST by Aristophanes (I'm not holding my breath, though.)
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To: PhiKapMom
If he were truly a patriot, he wouldn't hide behind becoming a Republican to get elected

When did you serve your country in wartime, lady? I didn't think so. You people talk loud about patriotism and who is a patriot, but all it is is talk. You are a hypocrite.

59 posted on 02/14/2003 2:23:19 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: PhiKapMom
If he were truly a patriot, he wouldn't hide behind becoming a Republican to get elected -- he would run as a Liberertarian!

Are you saying that true patriots are Libertarians and Republicans aren't patriots? Superficially I might be tempted to agree, at least in part or in jest. Please give me your definition of patriotism so I can see if I concur. Webster's says a patriot is someone who loves and zealously supports his country. Does love of liberty trump love of country? What if said country's founding principles were synonymous with liberty at one time but the country no longer adheres to them? In this case does zealous support go to original principle or to the current political establishment? Were the founding fathers patriots or traitors in their day? Was it patriotic or traitorous to oppose FDR in the 1930's? If it was patriotic to oppose FDR then is unpatriotic to support and carry on his agenda now? Or is now different? Thanks in advance for your knowledge and clarifcations.

64 posted on 02/14/2003 2:30:41 PM PST by u-89
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To: PhiKapMom
he would run as a Liberertarian!

Yeah, like that freak Martin Lindstedt (sp) tried, until they wised up and planted a boot up his a$$.

Btw, some greaseball named "Axle" over on LibertyForum seems to be saying you need a lead diet. If I were you, I'd have the feds on their door so fast their heads would swim, particularly since the identity of this scum is particularly transparent :))).

93 posted on 02/14/2003 4:12:21 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: PhiKapMom
Ron Paul only became a Republican to get elected something that seems missed by his followers on here!

That's not exactly true. Ron Paul started out in Congress back in 1974 as a Republican from the TX 22nd district. He was also one of the first congressmen on board Reagan's candidacy for President. He stayed in the House until 1984 when he ran in the GOP primary for John Tower's open senate seat. Fellow Texas congressman Phil Gramm won the nomination. Paul ran for president as a Libertarian in 1988. Around 1995 there was talk going on that a Republican could successfully challenge his congressman, Democrat Greg Laughlin, who represented a conservative rural district. Some of the locals started recruiting Paul to seek the GOP nomination to take on Laughlin and word got out he was interested in running. The DC crowd, who didn't want Paul back in Washington, began aggressively courting Laughlin to switch parties, which he then did forcing a primary between Paul and Laughlin. All the national money came in along with Newt Gingrich and other big GOP names for Laughlin, but the volunteers went with Paul and he won the nomination. He's been elected in TX 14 ever since with increasingly high support. In 2002 he won with one of the highest GOP percentages in the state.

So yes, Ron Paul ran as a libertarian ONCE in 1988. By contrast, he was run as a Republican in 1974's special election for congress, 1976, 1978, 1980, 1982, 1984 for Senate, 1996 for congress again, 1998, 2000, and 2002. As he says it, his party affiliation changed once and back again but his beliefs have always been the same.

97 posted on 02/14/2003 4:32:11 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: PhiKapMom
If he were truly a patriot, he wouldn't hide behind becoming a Republican to get elected

Aww, mom, that makes no sense whatsoever. Better go back to the 'day in the life of' thread.

198 posted on 02/15/2003 12:35:44 PM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it is pretty bold talk......)
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