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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
The very existence of matter and energy begs the question "where did these things come from?".

Wrong. The very existence of that QUESTION can only come from someone who HAS to think in terms of "beginning, middle, and end."

Our minds do not readily accept the concept of "eternity" or "infinity."

Even when we can "define" the words, or the mathematical constructs, most of us can't deal with something that has no beginning, middle and end.

Matter and energy are because they always WERE and they always WILL BE. Period.

57 posted on 02/14/2003 10:30:18 PM PST by Illbay (If the hunger for liberty destroys order, the hunger for order will destroy liberty. - Will Durant)
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To: Illbay
"The very existence of matter and energy begs the question "where did these things come from?".

Wrong. The very existence of that QUESTION can only come from someone who HAS to think in terms of "beginning, middle, and end."

Assertion without proof, and even if proven does not invalidate statement.

Our minds do not readily accept the concept of "eternity" or "infinity."

Even when we can "define" the words, or the mathematical constructs, most of us can't deal with something that has no beginning, middle and end.

The Cartesian plane, the Fourier series representation of a square wave, the parabola, hyperbolic functions, we can deal with the concept quite well thank you.

Matter and energy are because they always WERE and they always WILL BE. Period.

This cannot be proven, but it does by virtue of the fact that an answer was attempted, prove my original point.

61 posted on 02/14/2003 11:00:05 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (Where are those "golden plates" by the way?)
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