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To: bonfire
Problem is, nothing that you've written has any bearing on reality.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is vibrant. It is growing, it is going forward, it is spreading abroad exactly as the Prophet Joseph Smith said that it would.

It is the Church of Jesus Christ. There is NO other. All others "draw near to Him with their lips, but their hearts are FAR from him."

This you can tell, from the ranting, raving and foaming at the mouth of those like you who are confronted with the awful gulf of darkness represented by your pitiful "creed"-based religious institutions.

Try as they might, they have NO power to salvation. There is no authority, there is no priesthood, there is no Holy Ghost, there are no oracles, no revelation, no promise of eternal life.

Just a bunch of loosely-bound myths that depend on a shortened subset of the Bible to amuse those who are easily gulled.

These institutions provide the great bulk of converts for the true Church of Christ.

Yes, these are those with "issues": They are troubled by the dead, dust-filled creeds that more amuse than inspire. They have issues with false religion, false priests, dead and decaying rituals that signify nothing.

They have issues with hungering and thirsting after truth, and so they join with us, and revel in the truth.

I hear their testimonies hundreds of times a year. So many who were lost, but now are found. They are the creme de la creme of YOUR institutions, and they are now out from under the whited sepulchres of your "churches."

They are now one with the Truth Church of Jesus Christ. They know there is no other.

313 posted on 02/17/2003 10:43:51 PM PST by Illbay (If the hunger for liberty destroys order, the hunger for order will destroy liberty. - Will Durant)
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To: Illbay
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is vibrant. It is growing, it is going forward, it is spreading abroad exactly as the Prophet Joseph Smith said that it would.

It is the Church of Jesus Christ. There is NO other. All others "draw near to Him with their lips, but their hearts are FAR from him."

The Brotherhood of Islam is vibrant. It is growing, it is going forward, it is spreading abroad exactly as the Prophet Mohamed said that it would.

It is the Brotherhood of Islam. There is NO other. All others "draw near to Him with their lips, but their hearts are FAR from him."

 
Hm........... Just what's the DIFFERENCE here????
 
Oh yeah..........
 
I remember........
 
 
 
 
 
 

WE GOT Salt Water!!!

WE GOT OIL!!!

 
 
 
 
 
Have mercy on me, Oh God; for all I have to offer is tattered rags and sin.

339 posted on 02/18/2003 5:32:06 AM PST by Elsie (You have NO better hope than Jesus!)
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To: Illbay
This you can tell, from the ranting, raving and foaming at the mouth of those like you who are confronted with the awful gulf of darkness represented by your pitiful "creed"-based religious institutions.

You've gone pretty far, when you no longer have your OWN words, and have to re-cycle some of MINE!!


Try as they might, they have NO power to salvation. There is no authority, there is no priesthood, there is no Holy Ghost, there are no oracles, no revelation, no promise of eternal life.

Are you an idiot, or play one on FR???


Luke 10:25-28
 25.  On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. "Teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
 26.  "What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"
 27.  He answered: "`Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind' ; and, `Love your neighbor as yourself.' "
 28.  "You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."
 
 
Matthew 19:29
 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother  or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
 
 
John 3:14-15
 14.  Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,
 15.  that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life
.
 
 
John 3:36
 36.  "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
 
 
John 4:13-14
 13.  Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again,
 14.  but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life
."
 
 
John 5:24
 24.  "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.
 
 
 
John 6:27-29
 27.  Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed his seal of approval."
 28.  Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
 29.  Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
 
John 6:40
 40.  For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."
 
John 6:68
 68.  Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.
 
John 10:28
 28.  I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.
 
John 12:50
 50.  I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say."
 

John 17:3
 3.  Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
 
 
 
Romans 6:23
 23.  For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

Yes, their are promises for you as well..........

 
John 5:39-40
 39.  You diligently study  the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me,
 40.  yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
(the OLD testement, BTW: something that could NOT have things TAKEN AWAY from it, to be 'restored' later.)
 
 
Acts 13:46
 46.  Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.

342 posted on 02/18/2003 5:48:23 AM PST by Elsie (You have NO better hope than Jesus!)
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