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WHAT DID HAPPEN TO FLIGHT 93?
mirror.co.uk ^ | 1/27/03 | RICHARD WALLACE

Posted on 01/26/2003 9:28:46 PM PST by Polycarp

WHAT DID HAPPEN TO FLIGHT 93?

RICHARD WALLACE, US Editor, examines riddle of hijacked jet as he visits crash site

THE unmarked military-style jet swooped down at high speed through the valley, twice circled the smouldering black scar where Flight 93 had careered into the ground just seconds earlier and then hurtled off over the horizon.

GRIEF: Victims' relatives visit a makeshift memorial at crash site

At least six eyewitnesses saw the mysterious aircraft on the morning of September 11 last year. But the US authorities deny it ever existed.

So when George Bush laid a wreath yesterday at the crash site in a remote valley outside Shanksville, Pennsylvania, he was one of only a handful of people who know what really happened to the 40 innocents and four hijackers aboard the doomed United Airlines Boeing 757-200.

Those unimaginable final seconds as passengers showed courageous defiance apparently wrestling for control of the aircraft have become one of the defining images of the tragedy.

And "Let's roll" - ringleader Todd Beamer's no-nonsense call to arms - became a defining battle cry in America's war on terror.

But of the four aircraft taken on September 11, the exact fate of Flight 93 after its two-hour journey is proving difficult for US officials to explain.

What was the white jet doing there and why won't they admit to its presence? Why did other witnesses see smoke and flames trailing from Flight 93 as it fell from the sky, indicating a possible explosion aboard?

Or - and this is proving to be the most uncomfortable question of all - in the moments before the airliner piled into the black, spongey earth at 575mph did an American fighter pilot have to do the unthinkable and shoot down a US civil airliner?

Susan Mcelwain, 51, who lives two miles from the site, knows what she saw - the white plane rocketed directly over her head.

"It came right over me, I reckon just 40 or 50ft above my mini-van," she recalled. "It was so low I ducked instinctively. It was travelling real fast, but hardly made any sound.

"Then it disappeared behind some trees. A few seconds later I heard this great explosion and saw this fireball rise up over the trees, so I figured the jet had crashed. The ground really shook. So I dialled 911 and told them what happened.

"I'd heard nothing about the other attacks and it was only when I got home and saw the TV that I realised it wasn't the white jet, but Flight 93.

Ididn't think much more about it until the authorities started to say there had been no other plane. The plane I saw was heading right to the point where Flight 93 crashed and must have been there at the very moment it came down.

"There's no way I imagined this plane - it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but it was definitely military, it just had that look.

"It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side. I haven't found one like it on the internet. It definitely wasn't one of those executive jets. The FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.

"Then they changed their story and tried to say it was a plane taking pictures of the crash 3,000ft up.

"But I saw it and it was there before the crash and it was 40ft above my head. They did not want my story - nobody here did."

Mrs Mcelwain, who looks after special needs children, is further convinced the whole truth has yet to come out because of a phone call she had within hours from the wife of an air force friend of the family.

"She said her husband had called her that morning and said 'I can't talk, but we've just shot a plane down,' " Susan said. "I presumed they meant Flight 93. I have no doubt those brave people on board tried to do something, but I don't believe what happened on the plane brought it down.

"If they shot it down, or something else happened, everyone, especially the victims' families, have a right to know."

Lee Purbaugh, 32, was the only person to see the last seconds of Flight 93 as it came down on former strip-mining land at precisely 10.06am - and he also saw the white jet.

He was working at the Rollock Inc. scrapyard on a ridge overlooking the point of impact, less than half a mile away. "I heard this real loud noise coming over my head," he told the Daily Mirror. "I looked up and it was Flight 93, barely 50ft above me. It was coming down in a 45 degree and rocking from side to side. Then the nose suddenly dipped and it just crashed into the ground. There was this big fireball and then a huge cloud of smoke."

But did he see another plane? "Yes, there was another plane," Lee said. "I didn't get a good look but it was white and it circled the area about twice and then it flew off over the horizon."

Tom Spinelli, 28, was working at India Lake Marina, a mile and a half away. "I saw the white plane," he said.

"It was flying around all over the place like it was looking for something. I saw it before and after the crash."

India Lake also contributes to the view there was an explosion on board before the Newark-San Francisco flight came down. Debris rained down on the lake - a curious feat if, as the US government insists, there was no mid-air explosion and the plane was intact until it hit the ground.

"It was mainly mail, bits of in-flight magazine and scraps of seat cloth," Tom said. "The authorities say it was blown here by the wind." But there was only a 10mph breeze and you were a mile and a half away? Tom raised his eyebrows, rolled his eyes and said: "Yeah, that's what they reckon."

Light debris was also found eight miles away in New Baltimore. A section of engine weighing a ton was located 2,000 yards - over a mile -from the crash site. Theorists point out a Sidewinder heat-seeking missile attacks the hottest part of aircraft - the engine.

The authorities say the impact bounced it there. But the few pieces of surviving fuselage, local coroner Wallace Miller told us, were "no bigger than a carrier bag".

Nearly all the passengers were reduced to charcoal on impact and the largest piece of human tissue found was a section of spine eight inches long.

CURIOUSLY, military officials insist there was never any pursuit of Flight 93, although they were informed that it was a suspected hijack at 9.16am, 50 minutes before the plane came down.

At 9.35am they assumed it was heading for Washington DC after it changed course in a 180 degree turn and three F-16s - top speed 1,800mph - now patrolling over the capital were told to "protect the White House at all costs".

An anonymous flight controller said on the day that an F-16 was "in hot pursuit" of Flight 93 - Washington to Shanksville is seven to 10 minutes flying time.

A few minutes before the crash Bill Wright, piloting a single-engine Piper, could see Flight 93 three miles away, but was suddenly told to turn away and land immediately without explanation.

At 9.58am a 911 call - the last mobile phone contact from Flight 93 - was made from one of the airliner's toilets by passenger Edward Felt.

Glenn Cramer, the emergency supervisor who answered it, said on the day: "He was very distraught. He said he believed the plane was going down.

"He did hear some sort of an explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane, but he didn't know where. And then we lost contact with him." Glenn Cramer has now been gagged by the FBI.

Also, according to sources, the last seconds of the cockpit voice recorder are the loud sounds of wind, hinting at a possible hole somewhere in the fuselage. What caused the smoke and explosion? Why the wind sounds?

The FBI's later explanation for the white jet was that a passing civilian Fairchild Falcon 20 jet was asked to descend from 34,000ft to 5,000ft some minutes after the crash to give co-ordinates for the site. The plane and pilot have never been produced or identified. Susan Mcelwain says a Falcon 20 was not the plane she saw.

FURTHER verification that some kind of military aircraft was operating in the area is scientifically irrefutable.

At 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by supersonic flight - was picked up by an earthquake monitoring station in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles from Shanksville.

That Todd Beamer and others launched an assault on the hijackers there is no doubt. The brief extracts released from audio tapes indicate a fierce struggle going on at the cockpit door.

But nobody - official or otherwise - has categorically said the group got into the cockpit or that their actions led to the crash. Those final, agonising moments are mere presumption.

President Bush and his team have the whole story. So why aren't they telling the rest of us?

UA93: THE EVIDENCE

THE WITNESSES

At least SIX witnesses, including Susan Mcelwain saw a small military type plane flying around shortly BEFORE UA93 crashed. The FBI denies its existence

THE DEBRIS

The US Government insists the plane exploded on impact yet a one-ton section of the engine was found over a mile away and other light debris was found scattered over eight miles away

THE MOBILE CALL

Passenger Edward Felt made an emergency call from the plane. He spoke of an explosion and seeing some white smoke. The superviser who took the call has been gagged by the FBI

THE F-16s

UA93 was identified as a hijack at 9.16am. At 9.35am three F-16s were ordered to "protect the White House at all costs" when it turned towards the capital. At 10.06am it crashed at Shanksville, less than 10mins flying time from Washington

THE BLACK BOXS

Sources claim the last thing heard on the cockpit voice recorder is the sound of wind - suggesting the plane had been holed

THE SONIC BOOM

The FBI insists there was no military plane in the area but at 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by a supersonic jet - was picked up by an earthquake monitor in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles away from Shanksville.


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To: Atchafalaya
I don't think so, but I'm not sure.
61 posted on 01/26/2003 10:36:20 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Fred Mertz
was disabled by military aircraft; not shot down

Based upon? Interesting angle, would fit some of the (admittedly questionable!!!) eyewitness reports.

I have no problem accepting that passengers took back control of this plane, and it crashed.

I also have no problem with my government if indeed they disabled or shot down this plane.

Both would be reassuring to me, and I'm willing to examine valid evidence either way. I think the only ones who not are those who are criticizing/insulting.

And if this paper is a liberal rag, that mitigates against the credibility of this story.

On the other hand, as I said, this story rings true with what I've heard locally.

62 posted on 01/26/2003 10:37:10 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
Washington? Frankly, I don't know, but the USA is a very big place. A more likely distribution of two pairs of armed aircraft were someplace like Florida. Backup for drug "war" interdiction missions.
63 posted on 01/26/2003 10:37:39 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Convict pedophile wannabe traitor Ritter thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829655/posts)
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To: Timesink
The passengers found out via their cell phones

GOD you guys! You're thick!!

THEY called via GTE Airfones!

NBC even interviewed one of the GTE OPERATORS that from the Chicago subrb where GTE operates the Airfone system from.

Have you NEVER flown on a domestic flight?

Do you REMEBER those PHONES in the seats that had initally a ten dollar per minute fee (later more like $3)?

Geez! Dense people!

64 posted on 01/26/2003 10:38:09 PM PST by _Jim
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
True, but those working the USX Tower and one of the PPG buildings (tall building in downtown Pittsburgh) were told specifically to evacuate immediately (a plane was lost/hijacked over Cleveland and in Pgh. airspace.) It was widely reported here. Not saying it proves anything one way or the other, but it was widely reported here prior to the crash in Somerset.

I remember that day quite vividly and was listening to KDKA radio from about 9:45 AM to 11:00. There were a myriad of rumors that there could have been 3 or more planes being in the air after the FAA required madatory landings of all commercial aircraft and that basically the whole country was going into lockdown.

Rumors were flying in every direction on that day. Another question is why I didn't hear sonic booms. I lived in central Florida and reguarly heard sonic booms from the Shuttle landings and people in a wide area of Central Florida heard them. You would think that people would hear sonic booms(not just one sonic boom) on the flight path of the "supposed" jet that "shot" down Flight 93.

65 posted on 01/26/2003 10:40:39 PM PST by Dane
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To: judgeandjury
At least SIX witnesses, including Susan Mcelwain saw a small military type plane flying around shortly BEFORE UA93 crashed.

I don't believe that general aviation was grounded yet at this point - commercial air travel was though,through a "ground stop".

So, it MOST LIKELY was a private, corporate (or FAA?) aircraft.

No?

66 posted on 01/26/2003 10:41:59 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Askel5
I thought the "some combination of both" response an outstanding bit of Orwellian speak by Minetta.

There is alot of Orwellian speak going on around here.

67 posted on 01/26/2003 10:42:31 PM PST by LurkerNoMore!
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To: _Jim
Got numbers? Remember these elephants keep going and going.
Account for all the used ones that have been sold, traded, whatever to other countries and are still doing business with I'd venture to say reliably a wlole lot less maintenance than 800 had. Pas spark!
68 posted on 01/26/2003 10:42:51 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: _Jim
I'm not your "dear," Jim, and it would help if you engaged this discussion with less arrogance and patronizing tone and more patience if you truly desire to advance your position.

As I said, this article fits what I hear locally and what I have heard consistently locally from day one, but I'm more than willing to accept that it was brought down by the passengers.

I have no agenda, just a desire to find out more.

--Dr. Brian Kopp

69 posted on 01/26/2003 10:42:51 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Thanks. That helps.
70 posted on 01/26/2003 10:43:24 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: _Jim
NBC even interviewed one of the GTE OPERATORS that from the Chicago subrb where GTE operates the Airfone system from.

They were paid government operatives. Get with the program.

71 posted on 01/26/2003 10:44:07 PM PST by LurkerNoMore!
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To: _Jim
Hey Captain Jackass, have you ever USED a CELL PHONE?!

A FEW people used GTE Airfones. The rest used CELL PHONES.

CELL PHONES work just fine on airplanes in mid-flight.

There are DOZENS of reports of people from this and ALL the other planes using their CELL PHONES to contact relatives on the ground. Not GTE Airfones. CELL PHONES.

Get off your goddamned high horse. You may be smarter than a lot of the people on this thread, but that doesn't make you Einstein.
72 posted on 01/26/2003 10:45:53 PM PST by Timesink (I offered her a ring, she gave me the finger)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
AAhhh, hello!
73 posted on 01/26/2003 10:46:13 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: _Jim
Greetings _Jim, FReepers, et al:
How does "the government" silence all those FAA employees? :)
Wasn't there an animated radar image of the hijacked aircraft publicly released in late 2001?
74 posted on 01/26/2003 10:46:25 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Convict pedophile wannabe traitor Ritter thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829655/posts)
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To: Polycarp
Now moved to The Smokey Backroom

Great. Thanks a hell of a lot, folks.

75 posted on 01/26/2003 10:47:34 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
Well, I disagree with you, but I must say that you have been treated quite rudely by some FReepers here.
76 posted on 01/26/2003 10:49:33 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Ditto.
77 posted on 01/26/2003 10:53:38 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Convict pedophile wannabe traitor Ritter thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829655/posts)
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To: Rodney King
Frankly, I was more than happy to hear the explanations given here, especially because I'm aware of the fact that what I heard locally might not have been interpreted accurately. Heck, one of my patients had a briefcase with papers land in his yard at Indian Lake. But all the crash debris at the crash site buried itself 30 feet deep in the soft ground of a recently restored strip mine.

I always wondered how the plane would literally disappear, with hardly any smoke or fire, with no debris field, yet there be debris up to several miles away. It never made sense to those of us privvy to local emergency response personel "gossip."

78 posted on 01/26/2003 10:54:25 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
"Now moved to The Smokey Backroom

Great. Thanks a hell of a lot, folks."

LOL -- Some hot-potatoes get jettisoned to FR's version of Siberia.

79 posted on 01/26/2003 10:56:39 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Polycarp
Greetings Polycarp, FReepers, et al:
It seems the eyewitness Flight 93 story get embellished each it's retold.

Donning my tin foil cap. After watching that shoe bomb mockup demo, the Flight 800 story "fuel tank explosion" seems less credible. :)
80 posted on 01/26/2003 11:00:25 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Convict pedophile wannabe traitor Ritter thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829655/posts)
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