[DWar]

In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity. In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

" mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information..."

[rmmcdaniell]

In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity.

If genes were rocks then you would be correct. Like stones slowly weathered into sand, genes would be eventually degraded into a completely disordered informationless state. However genes are not rocks. Genes that are degraded through mutation are eliminated through death of the individual unlucky enough to posess them. Genes that retain there usefulness are preserved through reproduction. Then the select few that become even more usefull are preferentially multiplied.

In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

If it is so impossible how is a single fertilized egg cell able to develop into a vastly more complex adult human? You need to get your head out of the bible and into science textbooks to prevent yourself from posting more stupid posts like this.

[Deathmonger]

Actually, in the balance life contributes to entropy, processing chemicals and excreting it into simpler molecules. Life maintains its local organization at the expense of the surrounding environment. Otherwise we would all be perpetual energy machines.

[jlogajan]

In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity. In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

Sigh. I wish you ID guys would actually think before you post. Stop making fools of yourselves!!!!

Consider the life cycle of the snowflake. Sometimes water vapor, sometimes a raindrop, sometimes a pool of water, sometimes a complex organized structure. The molecules go from disorganized to organized and back again, over and over.

The snowflake lifecycle would seem to violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics -- at least according to the ID'ers understanding (and I use that word generously.)

In fact processes on the earth are driven by solar energy and therefore it is NOT a closed system and therefore the 2nd law doesn't apply locally.

Please please please ID'ers -- read a little science, it will do you wonders.

[Condorman]

Because you apparently havn't been keeping up on current events...

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[Dimensio]

In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity. In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

Good lord, Creationists are still pushing this lie? It only shows that they don't actually know the theory.

[Stultis]

In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

So you were more complex as a unicellular zygote than you are as a cognitive, multicellular animal posting to the intenet on your computer? Maybe there is something a wee bit wrong with your formulation, eh?

[Doctor Stochastic]

In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity.

The second law says no such thing. You really should learn some elementary thermodynamics to avoid making such mistakes.

[Polybius]

In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity. In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

You are mixing the Physics of the Universe as a whole with the Biology of an individual organism.

Biological systems take outside energy and use that energy to build a more complex system.

A tiny human embryo the size of a pin head can become a more complex 250 pound NFL linebacker. Howerever, in order to do this, solar energy had to be produced in the Sun and escape from the Sun, tens of thousands of pounds of plants had to be nurtured by that sunlight and eaten directly by the growing human or eaten by hundreds of cows, pigs and chicken that were in turn eaten by that growing human.

That tiny embryo does get more complex as it develops into that 250 pound NFL linebacker. However, the trail of chaos left behind by the feeding of that human is huge thereby satisfying the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

The end result is a more complex indidual biological system paid for by the price of greater chaos in the Universe as a whole.

[GregoryFul]

In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

In nature, it is self-evident that less complex systems give rise to more complex systems. By utilizing the energy found in abundance near a star.

[thisiskubrick]

In physics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of entropy, is clear that all complex systems are in a continual process of being reduced to less complexity. In nature, it is scientifically impossible for a less complex system, organic or inorganic, to move from the less to the more complex.

Complexity can be temporary. Take a look at clouds. If what you write is true, then how do all the complex cloud-shapes appear and disappear? One of the problems in your reasoning is that you are assuming a closed system, when the earth is an open system.