1 posted on
12/12/2002 4:02:27 AM PST by
SJackson
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To: SJackson
This is a pipe-dream...perhaps Mexico should get its own house in order first.
To: SJackson
Mexico: Bush, IDs, Remittances President George W. Bush, in Mexico for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in October 2002, said: "The long-term answer for the migration issue is to work in a way that encourages commerce on both sides of the border so people can find jobs here in Mexico, for starters. That's the long-term solution [the U.S. supports efforts] to develop industry together in the midst of Mexico, in the south of Mexico, so that people are more likely to find work at home."
The Mexican government launched a campaign in Fall 2002 to persuade the U.S. government to legalize the status of an estimated 3.5 million unauthorized Mexicans in the U.S. Foreign Relations Secretary Jorge Castaneda said "we will begin to work very hard to convince the U.S. government a migrant accord is indispensable." President Vicente Fox in November 2002 asserted that it is time to reach "an integral agreement" on legalization, while Bush said the U.S. was working on plans for "creative new policies so that immigration is legal, orderly and safe."
U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said that the U.S. would start with less controversial issues, such as temporary work visas and an expanded guest-worker program, but not legalization. However, Antonio Garza Jr., a Texas-born friend of President Bush who grew up in Matamoros, Mexico, was confirmed as ambassador to Mexico in November 2002 and said the U.S. "should recognize the contribution of undocumented Mexicans and open the door for them to earned legalization. Talks should center on the criteria that will allow people to obtain this status." Garza said a guest worker program that is market-driven, tied to U.S. labor needs and does not "displace people who are already in the work force" also should be part of bilateral discussions.
U.S. advocacy groups are stepping up their efforts to expand or develop a new guest worker program. Daniel Griswold of the Cato Institute asserted: "America's immigration laws are colliding with economic reality, and reality is winning. Migration from Mexico is driven by a fundamental mismatch between a rising demand for low-skilled labor in the U.S. and a shrinking domestic supply of workers willing to fill those jobs."
Candido Morales, a Mixtec Indian from Oaxaca, was named to head the Office for Mexicans Abroad. A Chicano Studies graduate from Sonoma State University, Morales has worked for the California Human Development Corp., which provides training to migrant and seasonal farm workers. Many of those trying to get Mexico to allow Mexicans in the U.S. to vote noted that Morales has little experience in Mexican politics.
A serial radio program based on a book by Eduardo Romero was aired in several Mexican states in November. Written in the style of a novela, or soap opera, the program warns would-be migrants about the dangers of crossing the border illegally and the realities of living in the U.S. The characters in the stories range from a migrant who spends all his money on liquor to an migrant nicknamed "Yes-yes," who is tricked by his boss because he does not speak English.
Mexico issued about 425,000 matricula consular ID cards to Mexicans in the U.S. in 1997 and again in 1998, 500,000 in 1999 and 2000, and 695,000 in 2001; almost one million may be issued in 2002.
1997 - 425,000
1998 - 425,000
1999 - 500,000
2000 - 500,000
2001 - 695,000
2002 - 1,000,000
Grand total - 3,545,000
According to the Mexican Foreign Ministry, 801 U.S. police departments and 66 U.S. banks accept the matricula consular, an official Mexican government document that certifies name and date of birth, as identification. Mexico charges $29 for matriculas.
This cheery little article is continued at http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/dec_2002-02.html.
To: SJackson
There are a lot of ways to wage wars of conquest. Apparently, Mexico is smart enough to use a non-confrontational strategy, to invade us with our own help.
It's strange to think that good men have died to defend the borders we now claim we have no moral right to protect.
5 posted on
12/12/2002 5:03:36 AM PST by
IronJack
To: SJackson
Double edged sword. If we make Mexico our 51st state, it will create a lot of jobs for Americans. There is much work to be accomplished in that country.
6 posted on
12/12/2002 5:11:18 AM PST by
PGalt
To: SJackson
BUMP
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ping
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This is no secret; its all in Mexicos official "National Plan of Development 2001-2006." This shocking document is a five-year plan full of political rhetoric emphasizing planned improvements for every aspect of Mexicos infrastructure, but it also lays out specific strategies for expanding the nations political reach far beyond the US-Mexico border. In other words, Mexico is systematically trying to cultivate dual loyalties, i.e. disloyalty, among its ethnic compatriots in America. This is a naked expansion of Mexicos national interest at the expense of ours; the mystery is why we are tolerating it.Type this in a google search
National Plan of Development 2001-2006
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14 posted on
12/12/2002 3:41:09 PM PST by
madfly
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National Plan of Development 2001-2006ping
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12/12/2002 3:42:53 PM PST by
madfly
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National Plan of Development 2001-2006ping
16 posted on
12/12/2002 3:45:02 PM PST by
madfly
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National Plan of Development 2001-2006ping
17 posted on
12/12/2002 3:47:14 PM PST by
madfly
To: SJackson
Here is an article on this Plan in the Washington Post 5 days before the WTC disaster. 9-5-01.
LINK
19 posted on
12/12/2002 3:52:07 PM PST by
madfly
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Disgusting ping...
To: SJackson
Mexicans seem to be milk toast in everything. They may be pouring over here for free benefits, but have been total cowards in their own country when it comes to trying to change the tyranny there. They have always needed a real revolution there to change how things are run and they've never shown us they had the guts to do that.
If they havent the heart, mind or soul to tackle problems in thier own place, then they should hardly be expected to pull off some big deal here.
Granted the mafia type of families that really run Mexico do probably try to get themselves all the goodies we offer them, but I don't think there with be anything to the level of what was suggested in the article happening here in fact.
23 posted on
12/12/2002 4:16:32 PM PST by
A CA Guy
To: SJackson
SEND THEM BACK HOME!!!
To: SJackson
The Mexican Government's Official Plan for a Takeover of America through ideology and assimilation More like we are taking over Mexico letting them think they're taking over us. Most likely the US , Canada and Mexico will all be dissloved as nations and a North American Union formed (Ivy league types will still run things).
31 posted on
12/12/2002 5:01:23 PM PST by
u-89
To: SJackson
Excellent post.
Its take on the numbers is conservative,however. (which is a good thing for statisticians) Non-governmental sources place the number of illegals at between 11-13 Million. They must have gotten that 3 million figure from LA County alone!
Admittedly, this is a tough number to get a handle on. There has not been anything like a real census done in the US for decades.
To: SJackson
Another disturbing section of Mexicos National Plan concerns the governments effort to set up illegal immigrants with special identification cards, allowing them to open bank accounts and acquire drivers licenses anywhere in the United States.
Any bank that accept matricula consular ID should be booted from the FDIC, and their depositors notified.
To: SJackson
you're just working yourself and others on this forum into a needless frenzy.
most mexican immigrants despise mexico's political system.
they like the u.s.a. because this country offers them opportunities not allowed to them in mexico.
just as a russian immigrant woman said to me recently, so it is for mexicans: she said, "in just 4 years in america i've achieved the material things that i dreamed of having for my whole life in russia".
you are ignoring the fact that immigrants want to be americans. sure, they may miss the old country, and they may carry on cultural traditions, but that's a normal human reaction. italians of the last century flew the italian flag, etc.
(the few mexicans that spout that racist stuff belong the the universities. no one pays attention to them.)
40 posted on
12/12/2002 6:20:06 PM PST by
koax
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So, Mr. Jackson, all them dirty Mexican immigrants who came here since 1970 will remain dirty Mexican immigrants until 2050?!
Puh-LEEEEZE...MUD
To: SJackson
As much as I love and admire our "Dubya", I have to say that I am afraid that we cannot look to him to turn back the flood gates of immigration. I think he, like his father before him, have accepted what they see as the inevidiable "New World Order".... a world where one day there will be no borders, just all one big "happy family". Remember Bush Sr's speach in 91 when he said:
"Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a "world order" in which "the principles of justice and fair play ... protect the weak against the strong ..." A world where the United Nations ........ is poised to fulfil the historic vision of its founders. " Well, I am sorry.... I am just not fond of the notion of a world run by the United Nations. Neither can I get excited about a world where we all become a melting pot and those of us who have cherished and faught for freedom become the minority.
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