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To: Condorman
You claim that the theory of evolution makes fundamental assumptions regarding the origin and purpose of life. I'm not familiar with that particular theory.

Surely you are not so uninformed as not to notice the naturalistic tendencies of those who imbibe the notions of evolution? The people who espouse this stuff: what do they believe to be the ultimate cause of existence as we know it? Are they silent about causes?

If indeed the theory of evolution has nothing to say about causation, that makes it even less worthy study or acceptance. If causation is attributed to nature alone, then a fundamental assumption has already been made: God has little or nothing to do with creation as we know it.

Those who make this assumption carry themselves with air of irresponsibility when it comes to higher things such as truth and honesty. The results are in plain view by virtue of your own dishonest words.

One may spout off all he wishes about theories within theories, theories about theories, and which particluar theory makes fundamental assumptions about the origin and purpose of life.The hair-splitting sophistry is irksome. A studious avoidence of plain honesty and truth has marked your discourse from the start.

We're not dealing with a particular theory here. It's a belief system. A mindset. A worldview more stupid than a simple fool like me.

But I'm not such a simple fool as to think you really seek a short summary of a particular theory of evolution. You seek to make a bigger fool of me than I already am, and I can do that just fine on my own.

362 posted on 12/14/2002 1:37:33 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Surely you are not so uninformed as not to notice the naturalistic tendencies of those who imbibe the notions of evolution? The people who espouse this stuff: what do they believe to be the ultimate cause of existence as we know it? Are they silent about causes?

Surely you're not so intellectually primitive as to argue from consequences or to attempt guilt by association? Some atheists champion the Theory of Evolution. Likewise some belivers. Both of the previous statements are also irrelevant.

If causation is attributed to nature alone, then a fundamental assumption has already been made: God has little or nothing to do with creation as we know it.

If you have evidence of God, then by all means subject it to the same rigorous investigation as the Theory of Evolution. In the meantime, the supernatural is outside the realm of science, and science will continue to restrict itself to phenomenon the physical world.

The results are in plain view by virtue of your own dishonest words.

You can, of course, cite examples of this dishonesty.

We're not dealing with a particular theory here. It's a belief system. A mindset. A worldview more stupid than a simple fool like me.

False. We are dealing with a theory. The general structure of life on this planet outlined by the principles of common descent with modification has been independently confirmed by several independent sources. You have yet to put forth a convincing argument. Notwithstanding the elegant language and false modesty bordering on obscene, your sole contribution to the discussion is "The Theory of Evolution addresses the origin and purpose of life, but I won't say how and I can't say where."

There are several Theories of Evolution, and once can trace the development of the theory through history as new information and evidence became available and was incorporated into the burgeoning science of biology. Not one that I am familiar with attempted to assign a purpose to life. The origin of life falls under the umbrella of biology but is a separate investigation altogether.

I can state the Theory of Evolution in a single sentence. The general statement of Einstein's Field Equation requires only 5 terms. Three times I have asked and three times you have dodged, preferring instead to hurl schoolyard insults meticulously dressed in ballroom words. You are arguing against the word while flat out refusing to define its meaning.

A simple fool can still be taught. The deliberately stupid are beyond hope. May your victory bring you great joy.

560 posted on 12/16/2002 11:39:41 AM PST by Condorman
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