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To: exmarine
It seems you are now less dogmatic about evolution. Now, you say you believe in it. Tell me, where do human beings get their value? hmmm? Do they have value? If they do, where does that value come from? Certainly not from evolutionary theory! Where?

Excuse me? what do you mean dogmatic?

I am not dogmatic about anything, creationists are clueless because they choose to be clueless. GODDIDIT is the easiest way to explain anything.

How did my wife get pregnant? Goddidit How did that bactieria become immune to antibiotics? Why, goddidit How did these fossils get in the ground?goddidit How come my grandmother got cancer? goddidit How come the earth go around once in 24 hours, and orbits the sun once a year? Goddidit

You notice anything about that? goddidit Ends it all right there. No need to go further, no need to study, goddidit That's all we need to know. RIGHT?

God CANNOT be proven, whether you like to fool yourself into thinking so or not. GODDIDIT is for the ignorant and the foolish. It is religious, it is NOT scientific. If science just looked at everything and said "goddidit", there would be NOTHING for science to do. and therefore, there would be NO science.

There is NOTHING dogmatic about evolution, it is a theory that says, this is here, so somewhere down the line we should find one of these, and low and behold, down the line, we find one. What a concept.

To say that if you believe in evolution, you cannot be religious, is not only ridiculous, but assinine.

Now onto the question of if you believe that it all came about as a huge accident, why shoudl you care? This belief would tell me that life is WORTH MUCH more then if goddidit because if goddidit then he can do it again, but if it is all indeed a cosmic accident, then life is worth a heck of a lot more, because we have one shot here, and that's it, the chances of it happening again are miniscule, whereas if goddidit then who cares, he'll just do it again.
3,229 posted on 01/06/2003 12:39:47 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: Aric2000
". . . goddidit Ends it all right there."

On the contrary, it BEGINS it all right there. Only a bonehead with the same one-sided bias as you would think creationism is an end in itself.

3,236 posted on 01/06/2003 12:53:09 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Aric2000
There is NOTHING dogmatic about evolution, it is a theory that says, this is here, so somewhere down the line we should find one of these, and low and behold, down the line, we find one. What a concept.

This is a disingenuous statement. Evolution is presented as dogma in high school textbooks, colleges, universities, the major media, in our entertainment, everywhere. The links you speak of are entirely fabricated.

To say that if you believe in evolution, you cannot be religious, is not only ridiculous, but assinine.

Evolution is itself a religious worldview, for it concerns itself with man's origin. And by the way, it (both the spelling and the theory) is asinine.

Now onto the question of if you believe that it all came about as a huge accident, why shoudl you care? This belief would tell me that life is WORTH MUCH more then if goddidit because if goddidit then he can do it again, but if it is all indeed a cosmic accident, then life is worth a heck of a lot more, because we have one shot here, and that's it, the chances of it happening again are miniscule, whereas if goddidit then who cares, he'll just do it again.

There is a kind of twisted way in which this may seem to make sense, but only if one is willing to make the major league assumption that God would, indeed, 'Do It Again'. Since by definition your worldview excludes God, such an assumption is prohibited and therefore unavailable for the illegitimate usage you have employed here.

If there is no God, life is indeed a meaningless charade which no one can fathom. If evolution is true, then... that a person only gets 'one shot at it' merely serves to increase the sense of urgency felt by those who wish to infuse life with meaning through deeds undertaken with the desire for lasting results that benefit others, and conversely, to increase the sense of despair felt by those who conclude that it is not worth the effort since we are all going to die anyway. Neither of those options is remotely the same as having the real meaning and purpose derived from the correct understanding of man's origin, identity, purpose, morality, and destiny. Such needs require a self-sufficient source of power and goodness that is found only in a Creator.

3,265 posted on 01/06/2003 1:28:37 PM PST by music_code
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To: Aric2000
I am not dogmatic about anything, creationists are clueless because they choose to be clueless. GODDIDIT is the easiest way to explain anything.

Haha. YOu are building a straw man here (the "goddidit" straw man) so you can tear it down. This is a ridiculous oversimplification of the creationist position. You have yet to explain many things I have presented to you. I ask you again: Where do human beings get their value?

3,288 posted on 01/06/2003 2:00:10 PM PST by exmarine
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