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You deleted half of his comment!!

"Look, I'm a card-carrying Baptist. I believe God created the universe and for all I know [mind you, this is one of the world's best particle physicists] particles may well have karma. But there's nothing I can say about it as a physicist. There's no 'Physics of Religion' course anyone on this campus can teach. And I'm sure there are more learned Baptists than me. So if you want a discussion with a learned physicist, I'm your guy. But if you want to discuss religion, I respectfully suggest you leave."

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You have just set forth an example of a Bible believing Christian who can perfectly well engage in scientific learning and discussion. I wonder how well such a declaration on Howard Georgi's part would hold up in most universities today. A good many evolutionists would dismiss him out of hand just because he is a creationist.

That above is the biggest load of crap. So what if he believes in creationism? As a scientist this does not stop him from looking at the universe in a scientific fashion. You will not see him create a SCIENTIFIC theory that says "godidit". If he did, Then he would be laughed and ridiculed. Because he keeps his science and his religion SEPARATE he is not going to be ridiculed.

THere is NO reason that a scientist cannot look at evolution and say scientific, yet believe in creationism, and say religious. I have known and do know many Scientists that are christian, Jewish etc, who believe religiously creationism, yet study and believe in the science of evolution.

I am so tired of your incessant, creationism/ID is science, when it is OBVIOUS that it is NOT. Can you find some other reasoning, because this one is showing that you are A: too stupid to understand the point we are making, or B: too bullheadedly fanatical to want to.

Either way, it is getting rather irritating reading you make the same points over and over and over again.

Yes, a SCIENTIST can believe in creationism, and YES he can Study and believe in evolution, but if he mixes the 2 in a scientific aspect, then he WILL be ridiculed.

OK? Are we done? can we move on now?

Damn!!

THere is NO reason that a scientist cannot look at evolution and say scientific, yet believe in creationism, and say religious. I have known and do know many Scientists that are christian, Jewish etc, who believe religiously creationism, yet study and believe in the science of evolution.

What is the basis for keeping belief in God and science separate? I will tell you - it is purely philosophical! The FACT is (if you know your history) that the biggest scientific discoveries in science were produced by men with Christian worldviews (pre-Darwin!). Ever hear of Newton, Copernicus, Galileo, Brahe, Keppler, Bacon? These men were able to make their discoveries because they had the CORRECT view of the universe, i.e. that it is ordered and rational. This view was borne out of their judeo-Christian worldview. That is precisely why the biggest scientific discoveries were made in the West and not in China or Africa. Since that day, however, philosophy has shifted. Now, as a result of the naturalistic philsosphical bias thoughout all academia in the west, science and Christianity have been separated, it is now dogma that the two do not mix. Just because YOU say science and Christianity do not mix does not make it a fact, it simply makes it YOUR PHILOSPHY.

"So what if he believes in creationism? As a scientist this does not stop him from looking at the universe in a scientific fashion."

Your comment shows a lack of comprehension toward both my previous posts and this one in particular. Have I not said already there is a time and a place to keep the two disciplines (religion and science) completely distinct and separate?

It also shows there is some agreement between us, since both of us believe there are circumstances under which "never the twain shall meet."

At the same time, the distinct nature of these disciplines in no way confirms the objective validity of one or the other.