To: whattajoke
"Whereas science isn't afraid to show its current inadequacies with comments like, "I don't know," (with regards to say, the beginning of time), religion supposes to know these things with wonderful statements such as, 'God made it so.'"I really don't see how the assumption that "God made it so" changes the reality of what exists. What difference does it make if one says "God made it so," and another says "No, He didn't. There is no such thing as God?" Do either of these points of view change reality and how we learn about it? What's the big deal?
To: Fester Chugabrew
I really don't see how the assumption that "God made it so" changes the reality of what exists. What difference does it make if one says "God made it so," and another says "No, He didn't. There is no such thing as God?" Do either of these points of view change reality and how we learn about it? What's the big deal?
I think that I will take a stab at this one.
First the god made it so, statement. If god made it so, then there is no reason to study it. It's done, god did it, nothing else to learn here, move along. A lot of creationists ask, WHY do we even bother studying it, god did it, that's ALL I need to know.
Now, as far as the 2nd statement, No he didn't, there is no such thing as god. How many times do I have to repeat this?
Science CANNOT prove the existence or nonexistence of god, therefore god has no place in scientific theory, because if god or an intelligent designer or whatever is in a scientific theory, it is NO longer a scientific theory, it has become religion, or philosophy. God cannot be proven NOR disproven, and if any scientists says otherwise, he's either a closet creationist, or an atheist. I have not met many athiest scientists.
To: Fester Chugabrew
What's the big deal?
2450 posts and you ask what the big deal is?! For those theists who accept the fact of evolution, and can reconcile that with their spiritual beliefs, there is nothing to worry about. (Stephen Jay Gould, for one, believed in the spiritual realm). But for those who can't, it IS a big deal. It comes down to having science books and classes discuss the mechanisms of evolution (and of course, all the other associated disciplines) versus a teacher saying, "Goddidit," now lets study kinetic energy or covalent bonds and ignore biology. That, to me, is a big deal.
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