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To: Fester Chugabrew
Sounds like "evolution lite" to me; a definition you've chosen to adopt for yourself.

This is not my definition. Even Creationists use it. From here:

Even under this definiton I doubt you have literally observed evolution.

I haven't literally observed the Earth orbiting the sun.

I haven't literally observed Thomas Jefferson authoring the Declaration of Independence.

I didn't literally observe my mother giving birth to me.

I have not literally observed relativistic dialation of time.

And none of these have yielded any significant anomalies either. Quite the contrary, each of these has been confirmed by several independent sources, the methodology is sound, and is consistent with the rest of what I know.

You've become a parrot, a lemming, for those whose definition of the universe fits your pre-conceived notions.

This is know as "projection". The only evidence you can point to are problems for which you claim the current theory of evolution might not have an explanation. So let's pretend: Evolution has been discarded, abiogenesis has been falsified, and everyone knows it. Now present and support your designer theory.

Also, when should I expect your description of gravity?

1,682 posted on 12/31/2002 9:18:49 AM PST by Condorman
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To: Condorman
"This is not my definition."

I did not say this definition originated with you. I said you adopted it for yourself. The definition you just posted seems to be a slightly expanded version. Whatever. It's still "evolution lite" to me, and will never adequately account for either the origin of species or the origin of matter.

"I haven't literally observed the Earth orbiting the sun. . . .

For as many things as you have not literally observed you certainly have a great deal of faith.

"So let's pretend: Evolution has been discarded, abiogenesis has been falsified, and everyone knows it. Now present and support your designer theory."

Pretending belongs to those who accept evolution as proven fact and have the temerity to push it upon those who may have equal or better notions. I will not pretend that creation has been proven. It has not, nor do I expect it to be in the near future. As for "Designer Theory," that's not mine to present and support. It speaks for itself, and very logically so.

"Also, when should I expect your description of gravity?"

As soon as you provide your description of light, electricity, and time.

1,710 posted on 12/31/2002 11:17:50 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Condorman
Sounds like "evolution lite" to me; a definition you've chosen to adopt for yourself.-fester chugabrew-

This is not my definition. Even Creationists use it. From here:

Dishonestly turning around the whole meaning of the quote by deleting the words I have underlined. What this shows Condorman, is that you are a liar and very dishonest.

The Evolution Definition Shell Game

The term evolution often takes on several meanings in today's scientific circles, often in very misleading ways. A 1999 undergraduate college textbook on Biology states: "Evolution is a generation-to-generation change in a population's frequencies of alleles or genotypes. Because such a change in a gene pool is evolution on the smallest scale, it is referred to more specifically as microevolution"

1,817 posted on 12/31/2002 5:51:11 PM PST by gore3000
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