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To: optimistically_conservative
Does science tell us the Truth about Reality? If so, why do scientific theories change while Reality doesn't?

Because a theory, like a portrait, is an approximation. When a better approximation is found, it is adopted. Some maps are better than others.

Anyway, is there such a thing as Reality?

Yes. The fundamental statement of philosophy is, "I am aware that something is there." You cannot have the subjective ("I am aware...") without the objective ("...something is there"). Existence exists.

"No observational discrepancies with that theory are known -- yet its strength goes far beyond this, in the number of hitherto inexplicable phenomena that the theory now explains."

According to this standard, evolution would rank as a "superb" theory.

1,649 posted on 12/31/2002 7:48:01 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Because a theory, like a portrait, is an approximation. When a better approximation is found, it is adopted.

I agree. I think science provides explanations, knowledge, and at best understanding. But not Truth. Unless you accept scientific explanations as partial or half Truths, or evolving Truths, until something better comes along.

Existence exists.

Again, I agree. I also leave open the possibility of the existence of realities that I am not yet aware of.

According to this standard, evolution would rank as a "superb" theory.

So be it. I have no problem with that.

1,667 posted on 12/31/2002 8:32:31 AM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: Physicist
"No observational discrepancies with that theory are known -- yet its strength goes far beyond this, in the number of hitherto inexplicable phenomena that the theory now explains." -optimistically conservative-

According to this standard, evolution would rank as a "superb" theory.

Okay, in that case the irreducible complexity of the bacterial flagellum most have been refuted, the evolution of life birth gradually from an egg must have been proven, the gradual development of the eye must have been proven, all the Cambrian phyla must have been shown to have ancestors, favorable mutations must be happening all the time, species must be transforming themselves slowly before our eyes, etc., etc., etc.

Care to give the scientific proof for ANY of the above happening according to evolutionary theory?

1,805 posted on 12/31/2002 5:10:32 PM PST by gore3000
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