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Hey, I of all people know what prop 187 did to California -- I've lived my whole life there. To establish my quals, let me tell you all that I am married to a beatiful Mexican woman, so I certainly am not against Mexicans at all. That being said, just take one look at the LA Unified School District and all of its problems teaching children of illegal aliens. I see our infrsatsructure bursting at the seams and my taxes going up. California passed another bond issue to deal with physcal infrastructure AFTER we in LA did Prop BB for that very same purpose.

What Davis did to the republicans can never be overstated, and his divisive race politics were the beginning of the death knoll -- it will take a generation to undo that damage.

That being said, It is not so much a question of illegals not doing jobs others won't do -- it is that they do them for much much less. A guest worker program would address this without having to have us foot the bill for welfare and schooling.

Please don't push the law-breaking argument the OTHER way -- the crime committed is also not as lightweight as jaywalking. We have immigration laws for a reason and it is patently unfair for some to bypass the process in place. My wife went through the entire process legally (and it was rather expensive) and she is a Citizien because she took the classes and learned our laws and our language.

I didn't realize that suggesting you were a DU lurker was an "personal attack." If you take what appears to be a liberal position, then it is not an unreasonable assumption that you are associated with a liberal entity. No such attack was meant, and if it was taken so, I apologize. The fact that you find it an insult is quite a point in your favor!

I appreciate your moderate position on this but something has to be done -- moderates are what keep the problem going.

I don't think you understand that a pro-immigration position is not necessarily liberal. Instead, it's awkwardly between the parties. Don't you think the Democratic union thugs would be delighted if we managed to close our borders?

My positions pretty much mirror the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and I don't think anyone's going to call that publication a leftist rag.

The problems of the LA Unified School District are mainly due to exceptionally poor management, incompetent people and a highly centralized administration that sucks up money like candy. I seem to remember figures to the tune of only 30% of the LAUSD budget reaches the classroom. No wonder Catholic schools do so much better with so little!

The solution to the LAUSD's money problems is clearly to split it up into smaller, more responsive and cheaper to run districts. If we could get 60% of the budget into the classroom, that would make the illegal alien problem insignificant. I'd like to see more like 90%, but I know that's probably a pipe dream at this point.

Don't fall for arguments trying to scapegoat illegals unless illegals, and not corrupt and incompetent government officials, are clearly the problem.