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Can You Help America?
Self ^ | 11/30/2002 | B4Ranch

Posted on 11/30/2002 8:03:21 AM PST by B4Ranch

Can You Help America?

Are you willing to give five minutes or more of your time to think about a solution to a very costly problem that exists in every State in the Union?

If you listen to Rush Limbaugh on TV or on his radio show, you will hear him discuss how dumb and ineffective Democrats can be. He has been saying that the Democrats are only good at whining about problems, not at fixing problems. Rush says the Republicans are the only party that actually fixes problems. Do you believe this? FreeRepublic.com is overflowing with Republicans isn't it? I propose that the Republican FReepers attempt to find a solution to this major problem and demonstrate to America just how effective Republicans (and FReepers) can be.

In the early 1960s, approximately 62,000 illegal aliens came across the Mexican border, and the INS considered this notable and worthy of action. Now, in the first decade of the 21st Century, hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens enter the United States across the Mexican border each year and the INS declares the problem too big to tackle because nothings stems the tide. Federal immigration laws state that sneaking into America without going through the INS Border Patrol stations is illegal. Hiring an illegal alien is illegal. Sheltering an illegal alien is illegal. And keeping knowledge from law enforcement as to the whereabouts of an illegal alien is illegal. With Agenda 21, the politicians are looking at every way possible to give those who break these laws a pass by granting amnesty and American citizenship to illegal immigrants. Agenda 21 means effectively removing the borders between Mexico and the US. NAFTA just opened our roads to tractor trailers from Mexico. This situation will become much worse.

This problem has been ignored in just about every city and county in America while costing exorbitant amounts of taxpayer dollars, spent on social welfare and the education of illegal aliens. Ignoring this problem also comes with the cost of an increasing crime rate resulting in too many American citizens being victims at the hands of illegal aliens. Governments at all levels, federal, state and local are not protecting America's federal nor State sovereignty,. nor are they protecting American citizens.

Why should you and I support a federal lawbreaker in our State? So an incumbent politician can get reelected with their illegal vote? I don't think so!

Matricula consular identification cards are solid identification of an illegal allien. If you can't show a birth certificate, a Visa or a green card then you are an illegal alien who has broken our immigration laws. They must leave America and reenter within our laws. We shouldn't have to amend our laws to accommidate lawbreakers! What example does that set for those who are attempting to enter America legally? Much more important: What example does this give our children? That breaking the law can be a rewarding act? If our immigration laws carry no penalty for being broken, why should bank robbery, or molesting children be punished? Do we make our laws for them to be ignored by aliens and politicians? Is a vote more precious than our standards and ideals? Our politicians must believe so, judging from their responses.

The words "protect the people" are found in virtually every Oath of Office taken by elected and appointed officials in the US, including the police chiefs, mayors, county sheriffs, state legislators, governors, congressional representatives, and senators. Sadly, not one of these officials on the public dole is taking their Oath of Office seriously when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration.

The Supreme Court of the United States has wisely ruled that the Feds cannot force state, county or city law enforcement officers to enforce federal laws (including immigration laws), and our local and state officials use this as an excuse to turn their heads on the problem of illegal immigration while our communities slide steadily downhill. Government officials continue to demand higher taxes to keep the illegal immigration problems under "control" yet we can only sit back in wonderment as they pay lip service to the problem while actually enacting legislation and policies that encourage people to emigrate to the US illegally with promises of social welfare and education benefits.

Being an American is a primarily a state of mind for all of us - being a proud American is based on the idea of freedom and self-reliance. We are all immigrants from one country or another, and we (or our forebears) became Americans by consciously subscribing to these ideas. We came here legally, we obey the laws and we promote the idea that others obey the laws in the same way. Are we supposed to sit and wait while the political class comes up with the politically correct so-called solutions that fail to keep America strong and our families safe?

How many foreign college students choose each year to stay in America rather than obey the conditions upon which they entered America? How many older vistors choose to stay at the end of their vacations? How many deported criminal aliens return using a different name? How many Muslims are in America illegally studing our open way of life, just waiting for an opportunity to repeat 9/11? I am sure we have illegal aliens from every country in this world enjoying the American lifestyle, helping to bring us down to a third world power. We aren't too far from becoming the country that these people left. The American culture can only absorb so many new residents each year without radical changes. We have passed that number. We must act now before the policical leaders offer them amnesty and permanently defeat our way of life. The time has come to stand up and fight for what we believe in. The Constitution will become wastepaper. The Bill of Rights will become a memory. Our flag will become a symbol of defeat.

If you have listened to Rush, you know the truth of his broadcasts. If you haven't listened to him, here's an opportunity for you to show how good FReeper Republicans can be at finding solutions to our nationwide illegal immigration problems.

So tell us, what should be done to fix the problems of illegal immigration in your community?

#1. Should we acquiesce and allow the illegal immigration to continue while waiting for the elected officials to address the problem in a substantive way?

#2. Should we wait for Federal legislators to compromise our security and way of life by resolving the problem in a manner that is politically correct and acceptable to every nation in the world?

#3. If we continue to send snail mail and email letters to your local and State leaders. Will the roar be ever loud enough to be heard in the highest offices? What will their response be? Submition to illegal immigrants who want to change America forever?

#4. Should we wait until you fly off the handle and lash out at an illegal alien, surely resulting in legal problems that will further harm your family and ruin your life's ambition to be a good and loyal American citizen?

#5. Should you ignore the illegal immigration problem and hope it will go away before it gets much worse?

What should YOU do?
What should WE do?

It is time to stand together to correct this problem. You are the leader in your family. Your kids look to you to protect them. If you don't help us now, will your children be able to look at you with pride or shame in five years. It's your freedom and your way of life that is up for grabs.

It's your choice, you decide what to do before it is too late.

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The new way of life


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We Need YOUR HELP!

541 posted on 12/03/2002 2:53:03 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Rytwyng
Here are some figures to show how many OTM's (other than Mexican's) get across the Mexican border. And, you might be surprised ( I was) to know that there is a growing number of Mexicans converting to Muslimism.

COUNTRY OF CITIZENSHIP TABLE

Afghanistan 85 Albania 217 Algeria 68 Andorra 1
Angola 18 Antigua-Barbuda 36 Argentina 465 Armenia 70
Aruba 2 Australia 84 Austria 21 Azerbaijan 13
Bahamas 193 Bahrain 8 Bangladesh 129 Barbados 51
Belgium 24 Belize 160 Benin  6 Bermuda 12
Bhutan 2 Bolivia 103 Bossnia - Herzegovina 32 Botswana 4
Brazil 3,493 British Virgin Islands 14 Bulgaria 119 Burkina Faso 6
Burma 19 Burundi 3 Byelarus 24 Cameroon 23
Canada 3,493 Cape Verde 47 Cayman Islands 3 Central African Republic 4
Chad 8 Chile 139 China 1,753 Christmas Island 3
Colombia 1,748 Congo 33 Costa Rica 334 Croatia 17
Cuba 2,750 Cyprus 4 Czech Republic 135 Czechpslovakia 149
Denmark 12 Djibouti 5 Dominica 31 Dominican Republic 3,229
Ecuador 959 Egypt 408 El Salvador 9,209 Equatorial Guinea 1
Eritrea 8 Estonia 29 Ethiopia 84 Fiji 38
Finland 3 France 118 French Guiana 2 French Polynesia 6
Gabon 2 Gambia 73 Georgia 81 Germany 183
Ghana  129 Greece 60 Grenada  28  Guadeloupe 
Guatemala 8,344 Guinea 80 Guinea-Bissau 4 Guyana 222
Haiti 1,058 Honduras 11,295 Hong Kong 34 Hungary 122
Iceland 63 India 909 Indonesia 213 Iran 161
Iraq 110 Ireland 63 Israel 350 Italy 115
Ivory Coast 38 Jamaica 1,748 Japan 66 Jordan 504
Kampuchea 123 Kazakhstan 42 Kenya 166 Kuwait 36
Kyrgyzstan 7 Laos 217 Latvia 25 Lebanon 190
Liberia 71 Libya 13 Lithuania 86 Luxembourg 1
Macedonia 42 Madagascar 1 Malawi 20 Malaysia 125
Mali 38 Malta 1 Marshall Islands 9 Martinique 1
Mauritania 2 Mauritius 2 Mexico 994,720 Micronesia 42
Moldova 10 Mongolia 32 Morocco 210 Mozambique 1
Nambia 2 Nepal 12 Netherlands 65 Netherlands Antilles 13
New Zealand 59 Nicaragua 823 Niger 24 Nigeria 333
North Korea 6 Norway 8 Oman 8 Pacific Island Trust Territories 1
Pakistan 1,444  Palau 7 Palestine 20 Panama 123
Papya New Guinea 4 Paraguay 13  Peru 619 Philippines 720
Poland 415 Portugal 140 Puerto Rico 1 Qatar 7
Romania 114 Russia 298 Rwanda 3 Saudi Arabia 122
Senegal 53 Seychelles 1 Sierra Leone 54 Singapor 16
Slovakia 43 Slovenia 6 Somalia 84 South Africa 66
South Korea 527 Spain 61 Sri Lanka 207 St. Kitts-Nevis 23
St. Lucia 34 St. Vincent - Grenadines 55 Stateless 2 Sudan 89
Suriname 7 Sweden 26 Switzerland 14 Syria 122
Taiwan 48 Tajikistan 10 Tanzania 63 Thailand 149
Togo 16 Tonga 67 Trinidad and Tobago 314 Tunisia 156
Turkey 280 Turks and Caicos Islands 6 Uganda 21 Ukraine 156
United Arab Emirates 12 United Kingdom 427 Unknown 21 Uruguay 78
U.S. Virgin Islands 1 Uzbekistan 73 Venezuela 273 Vietnam 437
Western Sahara 4 Western Samoa 29 Yemen 121 Yugoslavia 94
Zaire 20 Zambia 19 Zimbabwe 44

 

SUMMERY

The INS / Border Patrol apprehended 929,809 deportable aliens along the southwest border during FY 2002. From the above data, you can see that 1,012,429 of the total INS service wide apprehended aliens claimed to have illegally crossed the southwest border. On these two figures alone, we now that 82,620 illegal aliens slipped past the INS / Border Patrol.

The INS / Border Patrol estimates that they apprehend approximately 40% to 60% of the illegal aliens crossing into the United States, depending on who you speak with.

Independent immigration experts estimate that the INS / Border Patrol apprehends only 10% to 20% of the illegal aliens crossing into the United States.

From my personnel experience and knowledge, the independent experts estimates are more accurate.

For this presentation, I will use an apprehension ratio of 33%.

If the INS / Border Patrol has apprehended 929,809 illegal aliens along the south west border in fy 2002, then it is reasonable to assume that approximately 1,859,618 may have slipped pass the INS / Border Patrol.

This is an average of over 5,000 illegal aliens entering the United States undetected daily.

 

Here are some numbers to help put this into perspective:

US and Allied troops that invaded Normandy in 1944 = 250,000+

US troops that invaded Okinawa in 1945 = 550,000+

Illegal aliens that have invaded the United States in FY 2002 = 1.8 million +

 

On annual illegal immigration, the Center for Immigration Studies has extrapolated the latest Census data to show that Census data suggest that 700,000 to 800,000 new illegal aliens are settling each year. Now, far, far more than that enter illegally each year, but there is a lot of back and forth. The 700,000 to 800,000 represents illegals who truly settle in for at least a couple of year, and usually much, much longer.

23 posted on 12/03/2002 11:20 AM PST by madfly

542 posted on 12/03/2002 3:05:21 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
According to the local police chief in Somerville Mass. when he called the INS for assistance with illegals, the INS said they were too busy and couldn't do anything.

This was on TV, hopefully I was not the only viewer.
543 posted on 12/03/2002 3:10:01 PM PST by mssnoop
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To: All
Here is the rest of the info from Marine Inspector's page that I posted from in #23, above.

The figures in RED indicate nations that have known terrorists or radical Muslims, I am not sure. I will get that info and post it.

In fiscal year 2002 (October 2001 through September 2002) the Immigration & Naturalization Service apprehended 1,062,279 deportable aliens in the United States.

 

SEX AND AGE

 

STATUS AT ENTRY

 

LENGTH OF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES

 

EMPLOYMENT STATUS

 

SMUGGLING

 

FALSE CLAIMS

 

OTHER

 

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544 posted on 12/03/2002 3:13:58 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: All
The above was posted by madfly at posts #23 & #50

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/799887/posts

545 posted on 12/03/2002 3:15:43 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: mssnoop
If I was the Police Chief I would have called my Congressional Rep and arranged for the call to be on TV. The I would have asked the Rep, "Can you get this corected or do I need to apply for federal funds to build a illegal alien detainment center?"
546 posted on 12/03/2002 3:43:42 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: my right
Your grandson may just be able to convince a few of his friends and get the ball rolling in the younger age groups.
547 posted on 12/03/2002 3:46:00 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Aliska
Do I have all the answers? No!! But I have a $hitload of questions that my Reps. do not want to answer. As for chaos and conflict, the world only dishes that out to the ones that kneel and beg for it. Make your own. It is not inevitable.

Greener pastures. There is nothing wrong with my pastures. They just need a bit of cleaning. Pick up the trash and take it off. Plant more grass in the bare spots. And yes I am plugging the holes in the dyke. That keeps the flood from coming in until you can build a new one.

Please try to get(buy,beg,borrow,steal) a backbone. This poor little me just can't do anything or make up my mind is really getting annoying.

I really am trying not to put you down but.............
548 posted on 12/03/2002 3:52:01 PM PST by georgiabelle
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To: t1b8zs; t4texas; T5Driver; T6Flyer; taaminator; Tabi; Tabitha Soren; tabsternager; Tacis; ...
We Need YOUR HELP!

549 posted on 12/03/2002 4:24:15 PM PST by B4Ranch
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We Need YOUR HELP!

550 posted on 12/03/2002 4:24:34 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: dalebert
if you mean that what I've described is Bush's plan for Iraq , I hope you're rigth but it doesn't look that way.

If you mean Bush's plan for defending our southern border you're dead wrong. He's quite clearely on Mexico's side for that battle.

The only way to salove this problem is to never ever vote for anyone from Texas , California , Arizona or New Mexico. Those states are already lost. Anyone getting the nomination from either party from those states might as well be a Mexican agent on the imegration issue.

Politicains from other states are going to have to do battle with the politicains from those states to even begin to stem the invation.
551 posted on 12/03/2002 4:33:55 PM PST by stalin
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To: B4Ranch
Yes - I'm with all of you 100%.

I blame our "open borders policy" for 9/11.

Need I say more.

552 posted on 12/03/2002 4:37:02 PM PST by Tuco-bad
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The only way to solve this problem is to never ever vote for anyone from Texas , California , Arizona or New Mexico. Those states are already lost. Anyone getting the nomination from either party from those states might as well be a Mexican agent on the imegration issue.

Politicains from other states are going to have to do battle with the politicains from those states to even begin to stem the invation.

553 posted on 12/03/2002 4:37:32 PM PST by stalin
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The only way to salove this problem is to never ever vote for anyone from Texas , California , Arizona or New Mexico. Those states are already lost. Anyone getting the nomination from either party from those states might as well be a Mexican agent on the imegration issue.

Politicains from other states are going to have to do battle with the politicains from those states to even begin to stem the invation
554 posted on 12/03/2002 4:38:42 PM PST by stalin
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We Need YOUR HELP!

555 posted on 12/03/2002 4:40:07 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: stalin
Oh, and I suppose you think that politicians from NY, NJ or say South Dakota are better....lol!

The solution is to walk-away from the two-party system, but that would take people who can actually think....
556 posted on 12/03/2002 4:41:09 PM PST by TaZ
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To: B4Ranch
How much foreign aid do we give Mexico? Isn't the aid given so that they can better the conditions of their citizens?

Given the amount of illegals crossing the border, it seems this money is being mis-spent, probably going into some politicos Swiss account.

I say stop all aid to Mexico and demand payment in full of all outstanding debts Mexico has with us . . . unless "they" stop the flow of illegals across our border.

ACLU can't complain because it will be Mexican Federales who at times will go overboard with prople trying to cross the border and not our Boarder Patrol or INS agents.

BTW, did you know that when people try to cross from Guatemala to Mexico, the Mexican governments response is to shoot first and don't ask any questions later.

Reeks of the pot calling the kettel black when they complain about how the US treats illegals crossing the boarder. Last time I checked we weren't shooting illegals on site like the Mexican government does

Regards

Sergio
557 posted on 12/03/2002 4:41:42 PM PST by Sergio
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To: B4Ranch
Deport 'em. The INS needs reform. We have a legal Nigerian alien in our church who has been waiting for his wife's visa to be granted for SEVEN YEARS but these terrorists walk right in the door.

Deport 'em. But that will never happen. Too many bleeding hearts.
558 posted on 12/03/2002 4:44:54 PM PST by Terriergal
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We Need YOUR HELP!

559 posted on 12/03/2002 4:45:05 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: TaZ
....maybe the Republicrats are going to save us!

OMG, there are some really brain-dead people in this country.

Anyone remember Reagan's Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 that declared amnesty for illegal immigrants as a one-time deal.

Now Bush is about to do an instant re-play to pander to the Hispanic voting base....

You people just don't get it....THE ELITES WHO RUN THE TWO-PARTY SYSTEM THAT HAS A STRANGLEHOLD ON AMERICA IS THE PROBLEM!
560 posted on 12/03/2002 4:49:31 PM PST by TaZ
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