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Can You Help America?
Self ^ | 11/30/2002 | B4Ranch

Posted on 11/30/2002 8:03:21 AM PST by B4Ranch

Can You Help America?

Are you willing to give five minutes or more of your time to think about a solution to a very costly problem that exists in every State in the Union?

If you listen to Rush Limbaugh on TV or on his radio show, you will hear him discuss how dumb and ineffective Democrats can be. He has been saying that the Democrats are only good at whining about problems, not at fixing problems. Rush says the Republicans are the only party that actually fixes problems. Do you believe this? FreeRepublic.com is overflowing with Republicans isn't it? I propose that the Republican FReepers attempt to find a solution to this major problem and demonstrate to America just how effective Republicans (and FReepers) can be.

In the early 1960s, approximately 62,000 illegal aliens came across the Mexican border, and the INS considered this notable and worthy of action. Now, in the first decade of the 21st Century, hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens enter the United States across the Mexican border each year and the INS declares the problem too big to tackle because nothings stems the tide. Federal immigration laws state that sneaking into America without going through the INS Border Patrol stations is illegal. Hiring an illegal alien is illegal. Sheltering an illegal alien is illegal. And keeping knowledge from law enforcement as to the whereabouts of an illegal alien is illegal. With Agenda 21, the politicians are looking at every way possible to give those who break these laws a pass by granting amnesty and American citizenship to illegal immigrants. Agenda 21 means effectively removing the borders between Mexico and the US. NAFTA just opened our roads to tractor trailers from Mexico. This situation will become much worse.

This problem has been ignored in just about every city and county in America while costing exorbitant amounts of taxpayer dollars, spent on social welfare and the education of illegal aliens. Ignoring this problem also comes with the cost of an increasing crime rate resulting in too many American citizens being victims at the hands of illegal aliens. Governments at all levels, federal, state and local are not protecting America's federal nor State sovereignty,. nor are they protecting American citizens.

Why should you and I support a federal lawbreaker in our State? So an incumbent politician can get reelected with their illegal vote? I don't think so!

Matricula consular identification cards are solid identification of an illegal allien. If you can't show a birth certificate, a Visa or a green card then you are an illegal alien who has broken our immigration laws. They must leave America and reenter within our laws. We shouldn't have to amend our laws to accommidate lawbreakers! What example does that set for those who are attempting to enter America legally? Much more important: What example does this give our children? That breaking the law can be a rewarding act? If our immigration laws carry no penalty for being broken, why should bank robbery, or molesting children be punished? Do we make our laws for them to be ignored by aliens and politicians? Is a vote more precious than our standards and ideals? Our politicians must believe so, judging from their responses.

The words "protect the people" are found in virtually every Oath of Office taken by elected and appointed officials in the US, including the police chiefs, mayors, county sheriffs, state legislators, governors, congressional representatives, and senators. Sadly, not one of these officials on the public dole is taking their Oath of Office seriously when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration.

The Supreme Court of the United States has wisely ruled that the Feds cannot force state, county or city law enforcement officers to enforce federal laws (including immigration laws), and our local and state officials use this as an excuse to turn their heads on the problem of illegal immigration while our communities slide steadily downhill. Government officials continue to demand higher taxes to keep the illegal immigration problems under "control" yet we can only sit back in wonderment as they pay lip service to the problem while actually enacting legislation and policies that encourage people to emigrate to the US illegally with promises of social welfare and education benefits.

Being an American is a primarily a state of mind for all of us - being a proud American is based on the idea of freedom and self-reliance. We are all immigrants from one country or another, and we (or our forebears) became Americans by consciously subscribing to these ideas. We came here legally, we obey the laws and we promote the idea that others obey the laws in the same way. Are we supposed to sit and wait while the political class comes up with the politically correct so-called solutions that fail to keep America strong and our families safe?

How many foreign college students choose each year to stay in America rather than obey the conditions upon which they entered America? How many older vistors choose to stay at the end of their vacations? How many deported criminal aliens return using a different name? How many Muslims are in America illegally studing our open way of life, just waiting for an opportunity to repeat 9/11? I am sure we have illegal aliens from every country in this world enjoying the American lifestyle, helping to bring us down to a third world power. We aren't too far from becoming the country that these people left. The American culture can only absorb so many new residents each year without radical changes. We have passed that number. We must act now before the policical leaders offer them amnesty and permanently defeat our way of life. The time has come to stand up and fight for what we believe in. The Constitution will become wastepaper. The Bill of Rights will become a memory. Our flag will become a symbol of defeat.

If you have listened to Rush, you know the truth of his broadcasts. If you haven't listened to him, here's an opportunity for you to show how good FReeper Republicans can be at finding solutions to our nationwide illegal immigration problems.

So tell us, what should be done to fix the problems of illegal immigration in your community?

#1. Should we acquiesce and allow the illegal immigration to continue while waiting for the elected officials to address the problem in a substantive way?

#2. Should we wait for Federal legislators to compromise our security and way of life by resolving the problem in a manner that is politically correct and acceptable to every nation in the world?

#3. If we continue to send snail mail and email letters to your local and State leaders. Will the roar be ever loud enough to be heard in the highest offices? What will their response be? Submition to illegal immigrants who want to change America forever?

#4. Should we wait until you fly off the handle and lash out at an illegal alien, surely resulting in legal problems that will further harm your family and ruin your life's ambition to be a good and loyal American citizen?

#5. Should you ignore the illegal immigration problem and hope it will go away before it gets much worse?

What should YOU do?
What should WE do?

It is time to stand together to correct this problem. You are the leader in your family. Your kids look to you to protect them. If you don't help us now, will your children be able to look at you with pride or shame in five years. It's your freedom and your way of life that is up for grabs.

It's your choice, you decide what to do before it is too late.

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The new way of life


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To: B4Ranch
"#1. Should we acquiesce and allow the illegal immigration to continue while waiting for the elected officials to address the problem in a substantive way?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

"#2. Should we wait for Federal legislators to compromise our security and way of life by resolving the problem in a manner that is politically correct and acceptable to every nation in the world?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

"#3. If we continue to send snail mail and email letters to your local and State leaders. Will the roar be ever loud enough to be heard in the highest offices? What will their response be? Submition to illegal immigrants who want to change America forever?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

"#4. Should we wait until you fly off the handle and lash out at an illegal alien, surely resulting in legal problems that will further harm your family and ruin your life's ambition to be a good and loyal American citizen?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

"#5. Should you ignore the illegal immigration problem and hope it will go away before it gets much worse?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

If you think I'm kidding?

...I assure you, I'm not.

461 posted on 12/02/2002 8:40:29 PM PST by Landru
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To: MattGarrett; matthazard; Matthew9.9; Matthew James; Matthew Rush; matthew_the_brain; MatthewViti; ..
We Need YOUR HELP!

462 posted on 12/02/2002 8:51:57 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Midwestguy; midwestjenny; midwestmidnight; midxyz05; miffmole; MightyMouth; Mighty Pen; Migraine; ..
We Need YOUR HELP!

463 posted on 12/02/2002 8:52:10 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Not until it's too late. We've never had a State file bankruptcy, have we?

No, and it going to be interesting to watch.

464 posted on 12/02/2002 8:54:44 PM PST by LogicWings
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To: Landru
This is the present course of action, I believe?

Yes, I am aware this is the present course of action and that all of them have FAILED miserably. You are also aware of this so how about giving us some new ideas that you believe will correct the problems.

465 posted on 12/02/2002 8:58:05 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: MontanaFreeper; montanus; Monte Smith; Montfort; Monti Cello; montomike; montrose; Monty22; ...
We Need YOUR HELP!

466 posted on 12/02/2002 9:00:24 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: LogicWings
My only hope is that since California has been called the leader, meaning what happens in California eventually happens in all other States, their failure will show the other States that massive illegal immigration will lead to national downfall.

Unfortunately, I don't believe that the politicans will be bright enough to forsee this downfall early enough to stop it.

That is the basis on why I am attempting to roust the FReepers into action. Wish me luck and lots of it.

467 posted on 12/02/2002 9:08:30 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
"Yes, I am aware this is the present course of action and that all of them have FAILED miserably."

Yea, they've all failed miserably, alright.
So you've noticed then they're not changing a damned thing, too.
Sure, you know that.

"You are also aware of this so how about giving us some new ideas that you believe will correct the problems."

I cannot publically post what I think the solution to the problem should be B4.
You know that, also.

The times we're living in, what the bastard politicians -- from both sides -- have permitted to happen whatwith the strange "PC" crap word games & menueverings?
Makes ANY concerned citizen who's dumb enough to state aloud their OPINION a, "traitor," a "Racist," a "Bigot" et al.
One so much as DARES speak out these days & they'll be subject to complete & total destruction so fast it'll make your head *spin*.
Essentially, they've made the very *act* of one protecting themselves, unfeasable.
You know that, too.

Let's just say if we wanted to stop the illegal problem; &, I mean really wanted to stop it?
There'd have to be some serious, radical changes made from within our own elected political leadership, educational institutions & legal system.
None of which is going to ever happen, incidentally.
And though this is something you may not know, I'd bet you sense it, nonetheless.

The nation's in a real, genuine, stinking mess.

...now that's one thing I do know.

468 posted on 12/02/2002 9:27:41 PM PST by Landru
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To: daviddennis
#317 Bump
469 posted on 12/02/2002 9:32:38 PM PST by PRND21
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To: B4Ranch
What the problems seems always to come down to is getting the mainstream citizen off his butt to vote. There are too many people that don't feel up to it, they're too tired, they think others are going to vote intelligently, yada, yada, yada. Another part of the problem is people that vote for some jerk because of the pork he sends home, or how he looks, or other reasons that make our Founding Fathers whirl in their graves.
Thus we have career politicians who don't want to risk getting booted out of office by losing the Hispanic vote, so they won't do anything meaningful about the illegal alien problem.
This raises the possibility of term limits, does it not? But if we have a capitol full of free riders who won't do anything to risk being turned out, nothing on the face of the earth will get them to vote for term limits.
The truth is we don't need term limits, because the voting process has it built in; yet when we abuse the voting privilege, we get what we deserve, which is what we have now: A bunch of congressional freeloaders who stay in office long enough to develop a huge case of hubris, and continue to work for themselves as opposed to doing what we sent them there to do. The guy that said it best was a talk radio host in Corpus Christi, TX who said, "We don't deserve the congressional representation that we have. It wouldn't matter if we were a penal colony full of rapists, murderers, and child molesters, we STILL wouldn't deserve the congressional representation that we have."
You want to solve the problem? Do what I'm doing: Get out and talk to everyone you know, tell them what is happening, explain the consequences, and get them to vote. Nag hell out of them is that's what it takes, but get them to see the problem. A grass roots approach is the quickest and most effective way to take America back. But it takes time and effort on everyone's part. It goes without saying that if someone you talk to is a flaming socialist liberal, leave him or her alone. Talk to Americans that love America, because it is their negligence that is hurting this country.
470 posted on 12/02/2002 9:38:28 PM PST by Marauder
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To: B4Ranch
You are very annoying with your pings on this vanity. Do you intend to flag every freeper?
471 posted on 12/02/2002 9:41:31 PM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS
I sure do because the problen affects every one of us. Don't worry, you'll only be pinged once, perhaps twice at the most by me.
472 posted on 12/02/2002 10:05:02 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: AFMobster; anoldafvet; Apache48; aposiopetic; April19; asformeandformyhouse; Ask_Y_First; auggy; ...
This is a good idea...to expose the illegals who are being employed by American business. Expose the wrongdoing, dry up the jobs and the illegal immigration will dry up also.
473 posted on 12/02/2002 10:25:19 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
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To: B4Ranch
" Yes, I am aware this is the present course of action and that all of them have FAILED miserably. You are also aware of this so how about giving us some new ideas that you believe will correct the problems. "

How about Assimilation?

Or are you an Iroqouis?

Please don't remove me from your ping list. I wouldn't want to miss out on this. Keep your friends close....
474 posted on 12/02/2002 10:38:16 PM PST by abcraghead
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To: CreekerFreeper
I am frantically looking for solutions to the problem and thought of FR first.
475 posted on 12/02/2002 10:39:48 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Many just don't care about what is happening. Not until it affects their wallet and their community and it will.

I know people that have had to move because no one is willing to pay decent wages anymore. Many illegals and transportees can afford to work at cheap prices because they also get welfare and Medicare or medical. Aside from not learning English, letting there kids become little gang bangers and demanding that we give, give give.

They do not meld into our country but attempt to have our country assume there ways. But these people either have not seen it first hand or do not care. When you take your kid to the park and there are plenty of children there and your kid is the only one that speaks English, there is a BIG PROBLEM. If I was in a foreign country it would be fine but in my country I expect people to learn how to speak English.
476 posted on 12/02/2002 11:01:38 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: LO_IQ
It's called capitalism, the Law of Supply and Demand.

Yes, but the flaw here is that capitalism has been circumvented by the minimum wage, which destroys the wage supply dynamics and holds them artificially high.

The most effective way to deal with the illegal workers issue is to create a guest-worker program that will satisfy the American employers' needs.

No, the way to deal with this problem is to repeal the socialist minimum wage so that illegals won't be motivated to come for work that isn't worth it.

The big capitalists, the farmers, the construction companies, the middle class people who refuse to mow their lawns are not going to give up their cheap labor.

They won't have to, it will go back to being done by teenagers and the down and out here, the way it always has been. Things will always get done. If you sealed the borders with armed soldiers then the cost of coming here would be too high. Mexico would be forced to change the draconian land ownership laws that are bringing this situation about in the first place.

Ever ask yourself why this nation's nearest neighbor to the south has the problem, when they are sitting on some of the largest gas reserves in the world?

If you check into it you will find that individuals cannot own land, cannot own farms, cannot own those things that would make it possible for them to create their own farms, factories and businesses to get ahead. Only towns, communities and collectives can own land in Mexico. When did you ever hear this, when were you ever told? There is no motivation for Mexico to change as long as they can send their peasants here. That's who all these people are, peasants who cannot legally own land in Mexico. The situation is far more complex than a 'guest-worker' program. It is a level of political corruption that we ignore in Mexico to our own detriment.

The other flaw in the 'guest-worker' thesis is that in California they can get more medical care, more education, more free living expenses, more of everything, than they can in their own country even if they had money. There is no advantage to being part of a guest worker program over just coming here and being an illegal if you don't make some penality for being illegal, like shooting them as the come across the border.

Reality is not the way things should be, but reality it the way things are.

The reality is, if the government doesn't start doing something soon, people are going to start taking things into their own hands. Some already are, as a link I posted shows. The coming meltdown in California is going to be really ugly. That's the reality. And as it does, the rest of the country is going to see the horror and say, 'Not here.'

Waking up depends upon whose sleeping.

477 posted on 12/02/2002 11:04:51 PM PST by LogicWings
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To: heidizeta
It's so unfortunate and such a misguided policy. We are told to love and embrace multiculturalizm, while it significantly lowers our standard of living and quality of life. That is such a disgusting story. Who the heck wants neighbors like that, except for people with similar life-styles. Human torsos floating in rivers. Charming.
478 posted on 12/02/2002 11:48:01 PM PST by DBtoo
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To: lakey
I am not saying illegals are perfect, but they do the jobs most of us don't want to do, and they work hard and do them well. From what I have seen, most of our native entry-level workers are apathetic, spoiled and rebellious; Mexicans come to do our work, and don't complain. HORSE HOCKEY!

It's not that these people are coming to America that is the problem, it's the vehement refusal to become Americans, speak English, and become PART of America that is the problem: they want to re-create their little socialist hell-holes, rather than (oh yeah, he's gonna use the word) ASSIMILATE into the culture that has given rise to the single beacon for THE INDIVIDUAL.

As to your aspersions toward our youth, remember that you seldom see 4-H rs in the news, or the Civil Air Patrol, but they are there, and what you see on TV, the paper, and even the internet does NOT reflect the reality of youth today. The reason you see so many "bad apples" is simply because there are more people. Really.

479 posted on 12/03/2002 12:16:59 AM PST by Don W
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To: B4Ranch
What do you think of this letter I want to send to my representatives?:

(Representative's name)

I am concerned with the problem of illegal immigration in our nation. Over one million American jobs are lost to those who are here illegally and will work for much lower pay than legal domestic workers of the U.S. I am sure many of these same people also do not pay into the tax system and take tax dollars from the Food Stamp program, Medicare, and other social services that cause more problems for the big budget deficit of the U.S. Federal Government. The threat of terrorism also looms with our unsecure and open borders in the United States.

Employers must be held accountable for hiring illegal workers. Laws must be passed and more importantly enforced to support American workers. I am counting on you to support the American people. We need you to help keep our nation healthy, strong and to support these desperately needed changes.

Sincerely,

(Your Name)

Yes I will be sending the letters on a dead trees not by electronic mail. I would like comments on this letter.

480 posted on 12/03/2002 2:44:52 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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