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Respected Medical Professionals and Scientists are warning that water fluoridation has dangerous long-term health consequences.

Notable Quotes from Scientists and Medical Organizations Opposing fluoridation

1 posted on 11/22/2002 7:33:34 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration , Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids... "

Gen. Jack Ripper.

2 posted on 11/22/2002 7:36:45 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: FormerLurker
I put a Sodium Floride gel on my teeth every night.
6 posted on 11/22/2002 7:51:14 PM PST by The Shootist
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To: FormerLurker
Hold muh water.
12 posted on 11/22/2002 7:58:11 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: All; TomB
From another thread...


Lethal? You are getting hysterical. First of all, we have children all over the country swallowing fluoridated water on a daily basis and not dying. And I give thousands of fluoride treatments a year (properly) to small children, as do all dentists, and haven't lost one yet.

And you are slowly poisoning them.

So it isn't "lethal for a small child if swallowed".

I've already shown you that it is. It is quite a reckless statement to make that it isn't lethal, or at least potentially lethal.

From You Have the Right to Know

Only July 21, 1990, Chuck Filippini took his 8 year old daughter to the dentist who received a fluoride treatment at 11:00 A.M. Two hours later, she went into a seizure. Two to three days later, she died.

These cases are not unusual. Surveys show that over 6% of the children receiving fluoride treatments at the dental office complained of side-effects, including nauseaand vomiting, either immediately or within one hour following treatment.

From UK Government review of fluoridation goes online amid controversy

The National Toxicology Program (NTP) studied fluoride for 13 years and found evidence that fluoride causes bone cancer in lab rats. A prestigious senior official from the US Public Health Service, experienced in the prestigious art of writing scientific reviews, rewrote the NTP report to make it appear that the evidence that fluoride is carcinogenic is equivocal instead of definitive.5 William Marcus, Ph.D. senior toxicologist in the EPA Office of Drinking Water, blew the whistle on this cover up. When he examined the original data of the experiment, Dr. Marcus found that there was clear evidence that fluoride causes cancer and that the results had been deliberately downgraded by the reviewer. Marcus publicly stated that there could be more than 10,000 avoidable fluoride-related deaths per year.7 For this, Dr. Marcus was fired in 1990. Dr Marcus sued. In 1992, the EPA was ordered by the court to rehire him and pay back pay, legal expenses and $50,000 in damages. "EPA appealed, but the appeal was turned down in 1994 by Secretary of Labor, Robert B. Reich who accused EPA of firing Dr. Marcus in retaliation for speaking his mind in public. Reich found among other things that EPA had shredded important evidence that would have supported Dr. Marcus in court. The original trial proceedings also show that EPA employees who wanted to testify on behalf of Dr. Marcus were threatened by their own management. EPA officials also forged some of his time cards, and then accused him of misusing his official time."8

From Fluoride: Keep It Out of Bottled Water

It's hard to believe such a pro-fluoride stance: This year, FDA mandated that fluoridated toothpaste must display a warning that reads: "If you swallow more than the amount for brushing, contact a poison control center immediately." The mandate was prompted by more than 11,000 calls a year to poison control centers and three fluoride-related deaths.

From the 1991 Physicians' Desk Reference

The 1991 Physicians' Desk Reference cautions : "Dental Fluorosis [mottling] may result from exceeding the recommended dose. In hypersensitive individuals, fluorides occasionally cause skin eruptions such as atopic dermatitis, eczema or urticaria, gastric distress, headache, and weaknesshave also been reported. These hypersensitive reactions usually disappear promptly after discontinuation of the fluoride. In rare cases, a delay in the eruption of teeth has been reported."

I find it highly interesting that the very conditions that cause adverse reactions to the smallpox vaccine are due to fluoride.

Who Should NOT Receive the Smallpox Vaccine?

Yes, but you said " Fluoride has cululative toxic effects ", with the implication that is accumulates in the tissues like lead or other heavy metals. That is NOT TRUE. You do not see levels of fluoride in the body rise over time to any great extent.

Contrary to what TomB has to say, it DOES accumulate in the body, and is even MORE toxic that lead..

From You Have the Right to Know

Make no mistake about it: fluoride is poison . According to the 1984 issue of Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products (Williams & Wilkins), it is more poisonous than lead and just slightly less poisonous than arsenic . It has been used as a pesticide for the control of mice, rats, and other small pests. In 1991, the Akron (OH) Regional Poison Center reported that "Death has been reported following ingestion of 16 milligrams per kilogram of fluoride." In other words, one-hundreth (1/100) of an ounce of fluoride could kill a 10 pound child and one-tenth(1/10) of an ounce could kill a 100 pound adult.

Considering you have admitted that there are areas of the country with fluoride levels around 1ppm (albeit from the "natural" CaF), that is a useless statement. In addition, skeletal fluorosis is only seen in areas where the natural fluoride levels are over 4ppm. Lower levels of fluoride are actually associated with higher bone mass.

You obviously have conviently forgotten all of the facts I've provided that demonstrates that the food, water, and even the air that we breath are polluted with fluoride. The average intake is at least 4-8 mg of fluoride each day, higher than that for people who happen to live in fluoridated water districts that don't monitor their water as they should..

From FLUORIDATION: A 50 YEAR OLD BLUNDER AND COVER-UP

According to the National Research Council fluorosis affects 8 to 51% and sometimes as many as 80% of the children growing up in areas where drinking water contains one part per million (1 ppm) fluoride. Fluoride also can have a deleterious effect on bone growth and cause premature joint and ligament aging. The visible damage to tooth surfaces results in mottled, brittle teeth that are prone to fracture and may cost many thousands of dollars to cosmetically repair.

Once again, with fluoride ions being a natural feature of most water, this is not a problem at normal concentrations.

And again Tom, you try to confuse the issue between NATURAL calcium fluoride and ARTIFICIAL fluoride compounds. You have a rather short memory. Are you brushing your teeth with that 5000 ppm stuff?

I'm sorry, but I've seen no epidemologial studies looking at disease rates, hip fractures, or skeletal fluorosis, comparing areas with high and low fluoride levels.

Again Tom, I HAVE posted volumes of information and links on that. You DO appear to be suffering from fluoride intoxication...

From Fluoride in drinking water increases the risk of hip fractures in women

Fluoride in drinking water increases the risk of hip fractures in women, according to an October 1999 American Journal of Epidemiology study. This corroborates several studies revealing a positive fluoride/hip fracture association. Furthermore, other studies dismissing a fluoride/fracture link may be flawed because they weren't gender or hip-fracture specific, report authors Kurttio, et al. A recent Lancet study showing no fluoridation/hip fracture link was not gender specific between high and low fluoride areas.

From Increased hip fractures

In 1990 a large national survey of hip fracture rates published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found a dramatic link between fluoridated water and the frequency of hip fracture.11 This study closely followed a report in the New England Journal of Medicine which found that attempts to treat osteoporosis with fluoride actually increased the disease and resulted in increased bone fractures.12

I also noticed that many of your studies are from the journal Fluoride. Besides being on Quackwatch's list of journals to avoid, the paper I referenced above found some problems with it:

And those who made those statements are themselves guilty of quackery, and are more than likely funded by the ADA.

To promote a known poison as some sort of nutrient to the American public and to convince them that they NEED to ingest poison to attain good health is the ULTIMATE quackery. It is unimaginable that there are those who would even ALLOW adults and children to consume such hazardous material, never mind RECOMMEND and in fact FORCE them to.

Here's a bit of history on the topic.

How We Got Fluoridated

You also fail to remember that I've posted a MASSIVE amount of information on this topic OTHER than what is available from the Fluoride Journal.

Let me just remind you that there are QUITE a few esteemed voices that are opposed to fluoridation and the use of fluoride in GENERAL.

Respected Medical Professionals and Scientists are warning that water fluoridation has dangerous long-term health consequences.

Notable Quotes from Scientists and Medical Organizations Opposing fluoridation<

19 posted on 11/22/2002 8:05:46 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
Last year I was a volunteer judge at a high school debate tournament. The affirmative team's contention was that fluoride was a weapon of mass destruction. At the time I thought that was the oddest case I'd ever heard. After reading this thread I now see the merits of their arguments. By the way, the affirmative team won that round of the debate because the negative team offered little in the way of refutation.
37 posted on 11/22/2002 8:39:08 PM PST by octobersky
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To: FormerLurker
Fluoride is one of the most abundant elements in the earth's crust - cumulative and toxic to all forms of life at remarkably low dosage.

Er, maybe it's just me, but I don't see how both of these assertions can possibly be true simultaneously.

75 posted on 11/22/2002 10:50:42 PM PST by steve-b
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To: FormerLurker
Ho hum.
79 posted on 11/22/2002 11:15:02 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: FormerLurker
While millions die from malaria, Algore bans DDT to save the 'Red Breasted Coat Hanger'
93 posted on 11/23/2002 12:49:12 AM PST by rockfish59
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To: FormerLurker; All
I used to work as a dental assistant, and I can assure everyone here that there is an ongoing debate in the dental community regarding the harmfulness vs. the usefulness of fluoride. Same goes for the mercury in amalgam fillings.

This isn't a junk science, conspiracy nut, "Flat Earther" issue. It's a valid topic of debate. Dentists don't laugh at other dentists who worry about the potentially harmful effects of fluoride. They may vehemently disagree with them. But, they don't laugh at them.

127 posted on 11/23/2002 2:26:37 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: FormerLurker
Do you brush your teeth every day? If you look on the tube you will see a poison warning on virtually every major brand sold.

What are the cumulative effects of putting poison in your mouth every day of your life?

131 posted on 11/23/2002 3:03:00 PM PST by fightu4it
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To: FormerLurker
Hello.

http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/

http://www.fluoridefree.com/

http://www.fluoridealert.org/

http://www.fluoride-journal.com/98-31-2/312103.htm

http://www.fluoridation.com/

http://www.zerowasteamerica.org/Fluoride.htm

http://r.searchhippo.com/r3.php?i=2&q=fluoride+in+water&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffluoride.kamloops.com%2F




176 posted on 11/23/2002 8:22:45 PM PST by Coleus
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